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Now is the best time to be a gamer...

True 28 37.84%
 
False 42 56.76%
 
Comments. 4 5.41%
 
Total:74
SvennoJ on 18 October 2024
LegitHyperbole said:

Exactly. Imagine taking a time machine from back in the 90's to now, gaming here for a few weeks... you'd give up gaming when you went back no matter what age you were. 

Indeed it is, the golden age of TV too, sure you aren't told anymore what is good to watch and you have to take into into your own hands and research to find stuff but it's better than ever.

People take for granted what we have now. 

You forget TV shows were much more of an event in the past. 'Water cooler talk' isn't what it used to be as everyone is watching different things at different pace nowadays. Breaking bad seems like the last big communal event in TV history.

Sure there is more access nowadays, but as you said you have to take it into your own hands. Which is directly opposite to the sense of community TV used to bring. Just like with gaming, streaming, binge watching, any screen anywhere, has only driven people further apart.

So sure, it's has never been a better time to be an individual, reclusive gamer etc.

Your time machine analogy doesn't work when people praise being able to play all those older games now. Surely it's more exciting to play / have played them when they were new. The first movies with surround sound (Jurasic Park) were an event, driving people to the cinema. The novelty of CGI in movies, the first Pixar movies. 3D cinema had a lesser effect (But Avatar was still a huge event) and 4DX doesn't seem to move the needle much at all. Nvm nearly everything being a rehash or sequel nowadays :/



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Xxain on 18 October 2024
LegitHyperbole said:

I just don't understand it. If you want creativity go Indie, that's where the creativity went. It's like people aren't diving into the indie scene. I made a thread on the best Indie games at around 5 euro that are widely reviewed above 90 and the list is growing massively. Then there's the expensive Indie that is basically AA games these days. You can spend 15 euro and have a month of access to hundreds of games on a few different services. You can so easily never be fooled about wheter a game is good or not because of the internet. You can spend all your time on one game if you choose on a MP or a GOOD GaaS game or MMO and many people do and not have to spend a dime. We have MP games that work across time and space with anyone anywhere in the world. We have dev support for games post release so if you buy a shit game (No man's sky and the like) perhaps it's best to check in later and you might regain your value for money even though you shouldn't fall for a shit game with the internet. We have sales that are absolutely insane, ones you'd never find in a brick and mortor store and to that matter we are no longer at gamestops whim for better or worse, I say better. We have VR which is some of the coolest gaming tech ever made and so many great games if you choose or can buy in.... you can spend all your time there for that matter there's so much content. We have Hanheld PC's now, which alone you can pretty much play any game from the past or buy a cheap laptop and emulate anything you want. We have more games than there ever has been in the history of gaming to choose from. I'm only taking part in a small section of this content at the moment on PS4 and sometimes Switch for the most part and sometimes VR on Quest 2 and PSVR1 and I'm so well fed I can't even see the reason for upgrading to ps5 and probably wouldn't if my pro wasn't overheating but soon, in less than a month I'll have the ps5 catalogue to browse and choose what to play on good sales as I make my way through everything that I've missed out on with the odd full release here and there like GTA6.

I can't understand why now is not the best time apart from life circumstances that only give you so much time or energy to play games and take advantage of the tech you own. Like I get working a 10 hour shift, you aren't going to want to put on the VR headset or continue a long RPG or maybe even play a mindless game like Vampire survivors and this could skew your view of gaming bit aside from that you just have to look for the games, they may be floating around in massive amounts of sewage but they are there, they do exist and that's coming from someone who really tries to stay away from steam as much as I can.

Second sentence answers opening sentence.



JackHandy on 18 October 2024

The Atari-PS2 era was far, far better, imo.



rapsuperstar31 on 18 October 2024

True in the sense that you can still play all old games in addition to current games. To me nothing will beat playing N64 multiplayer with my friends in front of the couch for hours on end before going out for a watergun fight and coming back in to play some more Goldeneye.



Xxain on 18 October 2024
BasilZero said:
LegitHyperbole said:

I just don't understand it. If you want creativity go Indie, that's where the creativity went. It's like people aren't diving into the indie scene. I made a thread on the best Indie games at around 5 euro that are widely reviewed above 90 and the list is growing massively. Then there's the expensive Indie that is basically AA games these days. You can spend 15 euro and have a month of access to hundreds of games on a few different services. You can so easily never be fooled about wheter a game is good or not because of the internet. You can spend all your time on one game if you choose on a MP or a GOOD GaaS game or MMO and many people do and not have to spend a dime. We have MP games that work across time and space with anyone anywhere in the world. We have dev support for games post release so if you buy a shit game (No man's sky and the like) perhaps it's best to check in later and you might regain your value for money even though you shouldn't fall for a shit game with the internet. We have sales that are absolutely insane, ones you'd never find in a brick and mortor store and to that matter we are no longer at gamestops whim for better or worse, I say better. We have VR which is some of the coolest gaming tech ever made and so many great games if you choose or can buy in.... you can spend all your time there for that matter there's so much content. We have Hanheld PC's now, which alone you can pretty much play any game from the past or buy a cheap laptop and emulate anything you want. We have more games than there ever has been in the history of gaming to choose from. I'm only taking part in a small section of this content at the moment on PS4 and sometimes Switch for the most part and sometimes VR on Quest 2 and PSVR1 and I'm so well fed I can't even see the reason for upgrading to ps5 and probably wouldn't if my pro wasn't overheating but soon, in less than a month I'll have the ps5 catalogue to browse and choose what to play on good sales as I make my way through everything that I've missed out on with the odd full release here and there like GTA6.

I can't understand why now is not the best time apart from life circumstances that only give you so much time or energy to play games and take advantage of the tech you own. Like I get working a 10 hour shift, you aren't going to want to put on the VR headset or continue a long RPG or maybe even play a mindless game like Vampire survivors and this could skew your view of gaming bit aside from that you just have to look for the games, they may be floating around in massive amounts of sewage but they are there, they do exist and that's coming from someone who really tries to stay away from steam as much as I can.

People love to live in the past and dont want to let go of their favorites. They are upset because they cant do their console warring because the lines between all platforms is thinner than it has been in the previous generations.

For years I was like that too and held the SNES and its games as the best platform - its one of the best but not the best or only best.

Its the perfect time to get into gaming as a new consumer, a person who wants to get back into gaming but left or a person who has been consuming video games for years.

There's plenty of games coming out, both new and old, and most important of all the availability on the number of platforms.

Playstation, Nintendo, Xbox, iOS, android, PC and on top of that all the extra hardware out there you can get into that fits your needs whether if you want to stream a game, play a game digitally, physically , on a portable device or play on a high premium powered device.

On top of that, yes games have been more expensive at the price of $70 but majority of games go down in price fairly quick, you just need to know where to look  and thankfully there are tools out there you can use to find great deals of which none existed in the 1990s or 2000s.


There's just so many different options out there, I wish we had these options in the 1990s and 2000s. (Kinda like how I wish I had my smartphone while growing up in the late 90s or 2000s lol).

Edit: Its also a great time to be a movie/tv show viewer and a music consumer. There's enough games, music, movies, tv shows, etc to last multiple lifetimes.

That's just stupid. For somebody gaming as long as you say you have I can't believe the problem with this industry is not glaring to you.

Example:

In the past SEGA had about 8 teams. Each of those teams had at least 4 IP's the rotated between. Between those 8 teams SEGA had a lot of games in a lot of different genres. Let looks at DreamCast era. They had:

Sonic

Phantasy Star

Jet Set Radio

Shenmue

Crazy Taxi

Space Channel 7

ChuCHu Rocket

Samba De Amigo

Now SEGA is just Sonic, Yakuza, Persona/ Shin Megami. Sonic Team used to be responsible for Sonic/Phantasy Star/ Samba de Amigo/Puyo pop. This happening across the entire industry. Big companies with treasure troves of IP's being reduced to 2 or 3 games. CAPCOM: Resident Evil, Street Fighter, Monster Hunter. BANDAI NAMCO: Souls, Tekken, anime fighters. Outside of those Remasters!!

My friend. The amount of Remasters coming out should shine a light on the problem it self!

EDIT: I don't care if its reviving old IP's or making new ones; we need more variety. I love Yakuza but who asked for Pirate Yakuza? We just had 8, Gaiden, the Samurai one, in a very short amount of time. How about throw in something new. 

Last edited by Xxain - on 18 October 2024

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firebush03 on 18 October 2024
rapsuperstar31 said:

True in the sense that you can still play all old games in addition to current games. To me nothing will beat playing N64 multiplayer with my friends in front of the couch for hours on end before going out for a watergun fight and coming back in to play some more Goldeneye.

I feel like you miss your childhood more than you miss N64. (Nostalgia does wonders in warping my perception.) Personally, my preference is for games of today over any time of the past.



LegitHyperbole on 18 October 2024
Xxain said:
BasilZero said:

People love to live in the past and dont want to let go of their favorites. They are upset because they cant do their console warring because the lines between all platforms is thinner than it has been in the previous generations.

For years I was like that too and held the SNES and its games as the best platform - its one of the best but not the best or only best.

Its the perfect time to get into gaming as a new consumer, a person who wants to get back into gaming but left or a person who has been consuming video games for years.

There's plenty of games coming out, both new and old, and most important of all the availability on the number of platforms.

Playstation, Nintendo, Xbox, iOS, android, PC and on top of that all the extra hardware out there you can get into that fits your needs whether if you want to stream a game, play a game digitally, physically , on a portable device or play on a high premium powered device.

On top of that, yes games have been more expensive at the price of $70 but majority of games go down in price fairly quick, you just need to know where to look  and thankfully there are tools out there you can use to find great deals of which none existed in the 1990s or 2000s.


There's just so many different options out there, I wish we had these options in the 1990s and 2000s. (Kinda like how I wish I had my smartphone while growing up in the late 90s or 2000s lol).

Edit: Its also a great time to be a movie/tv show viewer and a music consumer. There's enough games, music, movies, tv shows, etc to last multiple lifetimes.

That's just stupid. For somebody gaming as long as you say you have I can't believe the problem with this industry is not glaring to you.

Example:

In the past SEGA had about 8 teams. Each of those teams had at least 4 IP's the rotated between. Between those 8 teams SEGA had a lot of games in a lot of different genres. Let looks at DreamCast era. They had:

Sonic

Phantasy Star

Jet Set Radio

Shenmue

Crazy Taxi

Space Channel 7

ChuCHu Rocket

Samba De Amigo

Now SEGA is just Sonic, Yakuza, Persona/ Shin Megami. Sonic Team used to be responsible for Sonic/Phantasy Star/ Samba de Amigo/Puyo pop. This happening across the entire industry. Big companies with treasure troves of IP's being reduced to 2 or 3 games. CAPCOM: Resident Evil, Street Fighter, Monster Hunter. BANDAI NAMCO: Souls, Tekken, anime fighters. Outside of those Remasters!!

My friend. The amount of Remasters coming out should shine a light on the problem it self!

That's a problem if you ONLY play games from one company but as I see it the companies together compete too much with each other as is and are sort of cannibalising themselves. No way in hell is the pie big enough for companies to release three games a year, it's hard enough for companies who do annual releases now as they are entering decline. In terms both aspects, industry and as a gamer there are too many games being released and not enough time which is a finite thing, especially now that people have started holding their wallets closer to their chest, if anythings wrong with the industry or will do harm, it's that. Not the other way around.

When's the last time you were able to all the games you wanted to play and actually make meaningful progress? I'm intesesly hardcore at the moment and managed conpleteing 18 games this year. 5 last year and I'm playing older games on sale. I literally wouldn't be able to keep up, as hardcore as I am with the new releases without just dipping my toes in some games and wasting my money on products I won't get the value back in time... cause there is not enough time. Not nearly enough. The industry is eating itself. Great time to be a gamer, bad time to be a publisher trying to sell games at a AA pace. They just won't be able to rely on people buying games who play for a hour and drop them over the next few years, not in this economy. 

Again, I suppose this all leads back to how you consume. Some peope do indeed stuck to one company but to say they are all like that is absurd. People who only subscribe to Atlus as one example are eating damn well, like 7 highly rated and very meaty releases in 12 months. Too much gaming for me to consume in such a short time and manage to game elsewhere too. 



BasilZero on 18 October 2024
Xxain said:

That's just stupid. For somebody gaming as long as you say you have I can't believe the problem with this industry is not glaring to you.

Example:

In the past SEGA had about 8 teams. Each of those teams had at least 4 IP's the rotated between. Between those 8 teams SEGA had a lot of games in a lot of different genres. Let looks at DreamCast era. They had:

Sonic

Phantasy Star

Jet Set Radio

Shenmue

Crazy Taxi

Space Channel 7

ChuCHu Rocket

Samba De Amigo

Now SEGA is just Sonic, Yakuza, Persona/ Shin Megami. Sonic Team used to be responsible for Sonic/Phantasy Star/ Samba de Amigo/Puyo pop. This happening across the entire industry. Big companies with treasure troves of IP's being reduced to 2 or 3 games. CAPCOM: Resident Evil, Street Fighter, Monster Hunter. BANDAI NAMCO: Souls, Tekken, anime fighters. Outside of those Remasters!!

My friend. The amount of Remasters coming out should shine a light on the problem it self!

EDIT: I don't care if its reviving old IP's or making new ones; we need more variety. I love Yakuza but who asked for Pirate Yakuza? We just had 8, Gaiden, the Samurai one, in a very short amount of time. How about throw in something new. 

Nobody cares about Phantasy Star, Jet Set Radio, Shenmue, Crazy Taxi, Space Channel 7, ChuChuRocket or Samba De Amigo.

They are called dead IPs for a reason. Same with F-Zero, Earthbound, Banjo Kazooie, Breath of Fire, Viewtiful Joe,  Jak and Daxter, etc

That pirate Yakuza game will likely sell more than all the above mentioned games which is why these companies continue making more games from the same series.

Sonic, Yakuza, SMT/Persona keeps getting more games because these are the games people care about. Which is why SEGA/Atlus is making spinoffs of said games, Metaphor is basically a spinoff of SMT series (i.e. Soul Hackers 2 is sequel to Soul Hackers 1 which was a spinoff of SMT).

There's enough games old re-releasing and new coming out to satisfy everyone.

You dont like what games are coming out?

Quit gaming then. Get a new hobby.

Edit: Or maybe play games from more than 1 region or company.



Norion on 18 October 2024

It overall is the best time but it isn't the most exciting. Someone who started playing games in the mid 80's will have seen things go from Super Mario Bros to Super Mario 64 in just a little over a decade. Or even someone who started in the mid 90's will have seen 3D games go from Mario 64 to Mario Sunshine or Half-Life to Half-Life 2 in just six years. I was born too late to experience those things but it must've been incredible at the time to see such progress in such a short time span.

These days are still overall better though cause there's endless high quality indie games and with the industry pushing hard towards a multi-platform future you have more new games to play than ever before in all sorts of genres regardless of your platform of choice. While playing Mario 64 back in 1996 will have been an amazing experience you didn't exactly have many other N64 games to play for a while once you were finished with it.

Last edited by Norion - on 18 October 2024

Xxain on 18 October 2024
BasilZero said:
Xxain said:

That's just stupid. For somebody gaming as long as you say you have I can't believe the problem with this industry is not glaring to you.

Example:

In the past SEGA had about 8 teams. Each of those teams had at least 4 IP's the rotated between. Between those 8 teams SEGA had a lot of games in a lot of different genres. Let looks at DreamCast era. They had:

Sonic

Phantasy Star

Jet Set Radio

Shenmue

Crazy Taxi

Space Channel 7

ChuCHu Rocket

Samba De Amigo

Now SEGA is just Sonic, Yakuza, Persona/ Shin Megami. Sonic Team used to be responsible for Sonic/Phantasy Star/ Samba de Amigo/Puyo pop. This happening across the entire industry. Big companies with treasure troves of IP's being reduced to 2 or 3 games. CAPCOM: Resident Evil, Street Fighter, Monster Hunter. BANDAI NAMCO: Souls, Tekken, anime fighters. Outside of those Remasters!!

My friend. The amount of Remasters coming out should shine a light on the problem it self!

EDIT: I don't care if its reviving old IP's or making new ones; we need more variety. I love Yakuza but who asked for Pirate Yakuza? We just had 8, Gaiden, the Samurai one, in a very short amount of time. How about throw in something new. 

Nobody cares about Phantasy Star, Jet Set Radio, Shenmue, Crazy Taxi, Space Channel 7, ChuChuRocket or Samba De Amigo.

They are called dead IPs for a reason. Same with F-Zero, Earthbound, Banjo Kazooie, Breath of Fire, Viewtiful Joe,  Jak and Daxter, etc

That pirate Yakuza game will likely sell more than all the above mentioned games which is why these companies continue making more games from the same series.

Sonic, Yakuza, SMT/Persona keeps getting more games because these are the games people care about. Which is why SEGA/Atlus is making spinoffs of said games, Metaphor is basically a spinoff of SMT series (i.e. Soul Hackers 2 is sequel to Soul Hackers 1 which was a spinoff of SMT).

There's enough games old re-releasing and new coming out to satisfy everyone.

You dont like what games are coming out?

Quit gaming then. Get a new hobby.

Edit: Or maybe play games from more than 1 region or company.

You are missing the point here greatly.

We had Publishers rotating across a dozen IP across many different genres to now being reduced to just 3. Whether you care about those IP does not matter in this context. Publishers catalogs were had more variety. Yes, a lot of those are inactive because of business choices, but at least at that time Publishers were willing to explore new creative ideas even if the failed. That's how you find new IP's! Yakuza Pirates selling more than those IP's doesn't matter; We are being asked this question as CONSUMERS not from a business aspect (My answer would be totally different if that was the case). This isn't region based problem. It's all over industry.