Acting was pretty flat and a lot of the character stuff made no snese but the core idea and production was solid. The idea of slow zombification is terryfing, they could have done more with that. It made me fairly uncomfortable in parts so it succeeds in what it sets out to do as a horror film. Zombie films could renew tension with slow necrosis instead of going for the World War Z fast Zombie stuff. The idea that the infected are still aware could renew fear in a stale genre. Character moments would be more impactful as people are allowed to live for longer, I mean you wouldn't kill a sick person even if the end result is a killer Zombie. I'd give it a 6 but mostly bumping for the unique ideas. 

Well the smell aspect of it certainly wouldn't be ideal for that lol.

wow, you just decided to watch it based on a rec huh?  very fast, you must like to seek out new experiences.  Yeah I liked it, was a whole movie based on empathy for the zombie.  Even though i love the sub-genre it does run a bit stale because you know what's coming and the different bent of the movie scared the heck out me.  I'd give it a 6 or 7 out of 10.         

Well it just happened that I keep getting adverts for a film called The Substance and this looked quite like that so I said fuck it I'll try it but if you have more recommendations I'd be glad to hear. In the genre I'd say the most impactful is The Fly and Cabin fever, don't watch the latter if you have food in your stomach, infact avoid it, you're better off. 

Legit, are you talking about The Fly movie from 1986, with Jeff Goldblum and Geena Davis?

That movie was awesome.  Heck, I remember watching it with my cousin, and getting stoned, and watching the monkey teleport into a mess. Yikes.

Yep. The original film. A gem. I watched it as a kid and threw up when during the arm wrestling scene which Reminds me, I forgot about The Thing. That's one of thee best. 

Agreed. The Thing (1982) is another great movie. Directed by John Carpenter, and starring Kurt Russell.

Legit, the actual original film is from 1958, starring Vincent Price.

The Fly is a 1958 American science fiction horror film and the first installment in The Fly film series. The film was produced and directed by Kurt Neumann and stars David Hedison, Patricia Owens, Vincent Price, and Herbert Marshall. The screenplay by James Clavell is based on the 1957 short story of the same name by George Langelaan.

The film tells the story of a scientist who is transformed into a grotesque human–fly hybrid after a common house fly enters unseen into a molecular transporter with which he is experimenting, resulting in his atoms being combined with those of the insect.

On the topic of 2012, I think it was one of Roland Emmerich’s more enjoyable films. But, much like his other films, it comes off like a B-film that got a massive budget.

I put it in the same tier as Independence Day and Godzilla 98. Abobe Day After Tomorrow and Resurgence, but below Stargate.

Tangent below about TV scifi:

For the record, I’m a fan of SG-1 and Atlantis and the associated films, but have yet to see the later stuff like SGU. Stargate has been in turmoil ever since, SG-1 has had like 4 attempts that were killed because of new CEOs/parent companies coming in and killing projects to show they mean business. Now the current 11th or 12th revival attempt is an entirely new continuity that either reboots SG-1 or starts a new story. I wouldn’t mind either, I really enjoyed the tech ladder element of SG-1, wouldn’t mind seeing a new series with that storyline again - hard to believe no one has done it yet with I, Robot… that was the original tech ladder series, basically starting out with early positronic brain robots and then expanding through the solar system, ending with the first star ships.

SG-1 hit the first star ships about midway through the series, and by the end colonies around the Milky Way and starting in another galaxy (Pegasus), and had ridiculously powerful battle cruisers, and was part of a Milky Way Galaxy alliance waging war against an intergalactic empire ruled by inter-dimensional aliens. SGU (from what I understand) is an odyssey across galaxies in a starship - there were a few series like that around the 90s and the 00s (Voyager, Farscape, and BSG being the major ones, BSG merging elements of Exodus, Numbers, and Deuteronomy and other mythologies).

Interesting, I might give it a watch if it can be found.