Ps5 pro sales will be much better if the console looks really sick design wise.

The Doomed and Gloomed continues it seems, even if the plans for the console in their 2nd half are not explained/revealed. The system it's going into its 4th year this coming November without any permanent price cut, there been only 1 LE console (Niche Man 2) and is still has a lot of Cross-Gen Games and the probable PS5 Pro, but if they achieve their target, the console will be 77m+ units by March 2025.

Good thing is that more current gen only games are coming, it seems that MH Wilds will be releasing in Q12025 alongside other more games.

It really feels like a Deja Vu from 2020 when many predicted the system to be eaten by MS and Nintendo and not achieving 100m+ units.

Yeah. Good point. With switch 2 coming in early 2025 while being able to handle cross gen games day one with ps5 and xs ps5 is gonna only go down from there. All the hype will be on Nintendo switch. 

they really squandered this year by making it so devoid of games. 

If games are not the issue why would GTA 6 clear all stock?

Because its GTfnA 6 lol.  Even if PS5 was 50% ahead of PS4, the launch of GTA 6 would still boost sales into the stratosphere because its a big effin deal lol. Even without a bundle.  With a bundle its curtains.  Its very existence should make all of these conversations moot.  PS5 and to a lesser extent Xbox, just happen to be in the right place at the right time.   By the end of next year the PS5 will be ahead of the PS4.  Its just what it is. 

Consoles sell based on hype

GTA 6 is the most hyped game of the decade easily.  So to your point one would suppose that Sony and Microsoft don't have to lower prices but it is my hope that they do it anyway. 

PS5 is for most a continuation of 8th gen. Microsoft is not delivering anything substantial either and Switch is just way too underpowered to get major AAA games

If you had a PS4 and look at Switch and Series S-X it's a no-brainer: You get a PS5, it's just far better value all-around, even if for just playing your old library with better resolution and FPS

Honestly for being such a good piece of tech I don't think PS5 is expensive. It will provide a substantial performance for more 4 to 6 years, as no game has yet to demand PS5 full power capabilities

The real and true competition for PS5 is PC gaming rising. But even PCs are costly and just too complicated for casuals who just want to play the next FIFA, COD and GTA

And while most people think on exclusives when thinking of the value of a console, but exclusives only matter when you have multiple hardware. Most people don't have fancy PCs or both PS5 and Series S-X. If the game is multiplat it still counts as a game for the console you own. PS5 Library is full of great games.

Nowadays you have so much backlog from indies to 7th and 8th games by dirty cheap prices with digital media to play on PS5 and never feel the console doesn't have enough games. Games are now often MASSIVE, I have spend over 400 hours in Baldus Gate and Elden Ring alone and don't even think I need more games because of how good and addictive those games are. Gaming boards like here are the only place on earth where I see people complaning about modern games being "bloated" and "having too much filler" (mind you those fillers are 90% of times optional but people complain anyways), in real world people just want to extract the most value of their purchase

This ignoring the big elephant in the room: The rise of Game as Service, where people play the same game for years like in MMOs. They don't need that many new games, when a good portition of their playing time is just dedicated to GTA online

Hence the perception of lack of games on PS5 is misguided and mostly reflect hardcore gaming entushiasts who play A LOT, have small backlogs and plays mostly single player games

It's the most hyped game of all time easily.

I agree with your overall point but to reply to this part in particular that isn't actually true, the PS5 was maxed out pretty much at launch. With consoles now being pretty similar to PCs their potential is seen basically right away like how new hardware from Nvidia, AMD and Intel gets maxed out immediately. It's been struggling some with certain demanding UE5 titles and that's only gonna get worse as this decade goes on since there's only so much hardware that was mid-range back in late 2020 can do.

ShadowLink93 said: Hardware sales are down 0.9 million year over year for the quarter. PS5 Versus PS4 For the 1st quarter of the 4th full fiscal year (orange) the 2.4 million the PS5 shipped is 0.9 million down on PS4's 3.3 million and after 15 quarters the PS5 totals 61.7 million compared to 63.5 million for the PS4. This means launch aligned the PS5 is 1.8 million behind PS4.

Looking at this chart I realized that the PS4 fell off hard after the PS5 released. Even the PS3 didn't fall off as hard when the PS4 released. I wonder if that has to do with the PS5 being released or the PS4 reached it's maximum customer base.

We all know this is where the PS5 will start it's decline. If things continue then at the end of the fiscal year I think the PS5 will be 4 million behind the PS4 (being at 75,200,000 units). Which means that I do predict Sony will not reach their 18 million target.

Sogreblute said: ShadowLink93 said: Hardware sales are down 0.9 million year over year for the quarter. PS5 Versus PS4 For the 1st quarter of the 4th full fiscal year (orange) the 2.4 million the PS5 shipped is 0.9 million down on PS4's 3.3 million and after 15 quarters the PS5 totals 61.7 million compared to 63.5 million for the PS4. This means launch aligned the PS5 is 1.8 million behind PS4. Looking at this chart I realized that the PS4 fell off hard after the PS5 released. Even the PS3 didn't fall off as hard when the PS4 released. I wonder if that has to do with the PS5 being released or the PS4 reached it's maximum customer base. We all know this is where the PS5 will start it's decline. If things continue then at the end of the fiscal year I think the PS5 will be 4 million behind the PS4 (being at 75,200,000 units). Which means that I do predict Sony will not reach their 18 million target.

Oh yeah. Both Nintendo and ps5 aren’t getting anywhere near their sales targets based on q1. I was surprised to see all the positivity around the quarterly numbers to be honest. 
I think the consensus was nintendos number of 13.5 m seemed pretty hard to achieve.  But consensus was ps5s 18m seemed feasible, maybe even beatable  that’s way out the window now  

ps5 will be lucky to get to 15 based on q1 of 2.4.  Consensus is Nintendo will be lucky to get to 11m based on 2.1 q1. 

hopefully ps pro, and Nintendo price cuts inject some life into the video game scene. 

im looking forward to astrobot and the Zelda and that’s about it for the year. 

ps5 controller is literally the best ever made for any console by a country mile. Shame to not have more reason to use it. Love how astrobot incorporates all the Sony tech into the game. 

Depends on the price, really.

If the PS5 Pro costs $600-650 or even more (and I don't see it being much cheaper than this considering the price of the PS5 is still at launch price and even above it in Europe, I don't expect too much success from the console simply because it would be too expensive for many people.