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Doctor_MG said:

Pokemon Scarlet and Violet might (probably will) end up outselling Sword and Shield. Which I'm pretty sure is going to be the first time in the series history that the second Pokemon generation release on a given system sells more than the first. That is, Gold/Silver sold less than Red/Blue, Black/White sold less than Diamond/Pearl, and Sun/Moon sold less than X/Y (albeit barely).

Kinda crazy considering the problems S/V launched with (and still hasnt been properly patched)

I don't think that'll happen. It will come close, though



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Valdney said:

Mario Wonder will probably not break 20 million.

It sold over 13 million units in its first six months, it will pass 20 million lifetime easily.

kazuyamishima said:

Sad and terrible sales for Astral Chain and Bayonetta 3.

Not really, they're just niche games.



Valdney said:

Was The Clash of the Titans thread shut down?? If that is the case. That’s too bad.

Considering how it ended up by the end, we aren't losing much here.

I guess you can make another thread if you wish  but if we get the usual suspects at play there, expect a similar ending.

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Mar1217 said:

I guess you can make another thread if you wish  it if we the usual suspects at play there, expect a similar ending.

Please no, the last thing we need is more of the toxic discourse that's surrounded discussion of Mario Bros Wonder in that thread and others.



curl-6 said:
Mar1217 said:

I guess you can make another thread if you wish  it if we the usual suspects at play there, expect a similar ending.

Please no, the last thing we need is more of the toxic discourse that's surrounded discussion of Mario Bros Wonder in that thread and others.

I honestly wouldn't want it too considering the events that ensued there (and in another thread currently ....)



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AddRat said:
kazuyamishima said:

Sad and terrible sales for Astral Chain and Bayonetta 3.

You seem to be repeating this on this site. Why?

Would you say Stellar Blade has sad and terrible sales?

Have all three games and IMO they first two would deserve better sales after being in the market for more than 2 years, Astral Chain even longer. They are good games. 

As for Stellar Blade time will tell since it’s only been out for about 3 months or so, but I’m pretty sure it will outsell Bayo 3 and AC combined. 

I guess AC and Bayo 3 really are niche titles after all. 

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kazuyamishima said:
AddRat said:

You seem to be repeating this on this site. Why?

Would you say Stellar Blade has sad and terrible sales?

Have all three games and IMO they first two would deserve better sales after being in the market for more than 2 years, Astral Chain even longer. They are good games. 

As for Stellar Blade time will tell since it’s only been out for about 3 months or so. 

I guess AC and Bayo 3 really are niche titles after all. 

I love Bayo 2 and bought 3. Couldn't get into it for some reason so I sold it after a week. Same thing with astral chain. I wanted to love it but ended up selling it after forcing myself to play it for like 10 hours. 



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Tober said:
Norion said:

I know, to be more clear my point with pointing out the increase was due to it being noteworthy cause of how unusually large it is. It won't be going anywhere for the Switch 2 of course though I do think it's possible that by the early 2030's it'll have declined by so much that there's at least a small chance they forgo it for the following system. If not then I'd bet on that system being the last ever major console to have it.

It's important to note that the mentioned 58.9% Digital sales includes revenue of NSO subsriptions and DLC and is not just the digital software portion of Nintendo published games only.

Source Page 20: https://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/pdf/2024/240802_2e.pdf

The second box top row shows the Proportion of Digital sales of total Software sales as 58.9%. The Third box top row shows how much of that was digital versions of packaged Nintendo published software at 42.2%.

Given their own calculation method:

Digital Sales: Includes (a) downloadable version of packaged software (the downloadable version of software that is offered both physically and digitally), (b) download-only software, (C) add-on content and (d) Nintendo Switch Online, etc.
・Proportion of Digital Sales: Proportion of digital sales to total dedicated video game platform software sales
・Proportion of Downloadable Versions of Packaged Software Sales: Proportion of downloadable versions of packaged software sales to total digital sales [= a/(a+b+c+d)]

That means 42.2% of 58.9% of sales where digital sales of also available as packaged software. Or in other words 24.86% according to my understanding.

ps. Any digital portion of non-Nintendo published games cannot be determined, because this report only talks about Nintendo revenue.

Thanks for the explanation and huh based on this and your other comment it really isn't as straightforward as it seemed. I know that digital game sales in Japan has increased a lot the past several years with an increasing number of Switch games getting over 30% digital sales which is notable since until recently physical was still very dominant there so I would guess it's higher than that in NA and Europe but unfortunately it seems there's no concrete numbers on it.

I do think my general point still stands since digital game sales have been massively higher for the Switch than the 3DS and I expect that trend to continue for the Switch 2 but it'll take a while still for physical to lose relevance for big first party Nintendo games. My guess is that'll happen in the next 10-15 years.

pavel1995 said:
Norion said:

I was expecting 1.8-2m Switch shipments so this is a pretty decent start to the fiscal year. It'll have to remain basically completely flat for the other three quarters to reach 13.5m which I really don't see happening but even just 10-11m would still be a great result for its age. The software forecast is also looking tough to reach since there isn't much room left for declines with that already being down 22m but the declines in the other quarters shouldn't be anywhere near as bad so if they miss it it shouldn't be by that much.

Something noteworthy about the software is how much the digital ratio has increased YoY and how close it's getting to two thirds. It's gonna start at about that level with the Switch 2 or reach it quickly so this was the console where digital for Nintendo went from a low percentage to the majority and that'll be the console for them where it starts fully taking over and by the end of it physical will not have much relevance left which is gonna make things like the software sales from Famitsu increasingly become less useful.

Also this is a pretty disappointing start for the TTYD remake with its first quarter sales being a lot lower than Origami King and the Super Mario RPG remake. With how quickly these games fall off it might only barely reach 2m which isn't exactly a great result for pushing the series to return to its roots. Perhaps three Mario RPG's releasing in a year span is gonna hurt the latter two due to sales being cannibalized.

If you take out tears of the kingdom that 22 million number almost disappears. It is a deficit but the deficit was cause by the largest first party game released that year that year, nintendo should be able to close that gap with zelda, mario party

I know it was due to TOTK, the rest of the sentence following the part you bolded was referring to that. Those games will help but they're definitely not gonna close that gap, the current gap would already exceed their forecast.



Nailed it with mario wonder. I said 20 million to 22 million max. call me mystic mac cause i predict these things. It's a really good 2d mario game though but NSMU sales on switch told me everything



FY3/2024 (last year)
Q1 : 3.91M
Q2 : 2.93M
Q3 : 6.90M
Q4 : 1.96M
T : 15.70M

FY3/2025 (actual)
Q1 : 2.10M
Q2 : 2.50M ? (1.90M more realistic)
Q3 : 7.00M ? (6.00M)
Q4 : 1.90M ? (1.50M)
T : 13.50M ? (11.50M probably)