Focusing on demographics change used to be a winning position for democrats, it has now completely turned against them. Latinos used vote for them upwards of 3 to 1, now is close to even. And when the electoral votes get readjusted in 2030 according to the new census Democrats are going to feel a demographic pain. If this new census had already been in place Trump would have easily won without any of the rust belt states, except Ohio which is not even a swing state anymore.

Coalitions change all of the time. The Obama coalition failed to show up this time, but that is just a hint that Democrats need a new campaign message different from Obama's. Trump's coalition changed in the last ten years as well. 

Adopting a left-populist message probably would bring Latinos back and a significant enough share of rural working class whites too. Bernie Sanders did better among these groups than Biden, Harris, and Clinton. 

I disagree.

I think those people who voted based on those issues are idiots and/or evil.

So long as the left decides to double down and learn nothing, they will continue to lose people.

Now is the time for introspection and change, for rethinking how the left can reach those outside their bubble.

By all means, keep screaming at anyone who disagrees with leftist ideology, but then don't act surprised if they vote against you.

Speaking about inflation, do any of you recall learning this in school: "Inflation is slow starting and slow stopping"

However, in our present case, did Covid accelerate the onset of our current inflationary problem? That's another debate.

Truth is Democrats have been bought out. Most of the big companies like Google and Microsoft they donated more to Kamala than Trump. Watch the DNC a big arena with corporate media and investors watching from the balcony and sponsorships all over the convention. The major corporations arent doing this for free. They're so embedded into the Democratic Party (RNC as well) that its going to take soem serious policy to change lobbying and big money in elections or the right progressive candidate just refuses to take the money.

If shit is still expensive in 4 years (and it probably will be, companies have no incentive to drop their prices for any administration) the Dems are likely well positioned to win in 2028 with a male candidate. There's no one else on the Republican side that has Trump's stage presence either.  

This is just the continuing fall out of the COVID era and the continuing after effects of it. 

The only way to solve inflation after prices have inflated is to basically have a recession, but that doesn't work well for an incumbent party either because then you're blamed for (well) the recession. 

There is no good solution to inflation, no politician will admit it out loud. 

I imagine your perspective would be a lot different if Kamala had won. Be careful what you say, it could come back to haunt you someday.

Also, I surmise this post from you is when you started your "NFL joke" and it was targeted at Chrkeller at first, but I was the first one to call you out.

(From Page 122 of this thread, last post)

https://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread/248303/2024-us-presidential-election/122/

There is all this talk about Democrats needing to learn from this. Yes, you can always evaluate policies and how to better message them but let's not forget just 4 years ago 81 million Americans voted for Biden. That is more than total votes Trump is going to recieve.

What is troubling to me is that half this country thinks it's appropriate to send someone who tried to undermine our democracy to the white house. The fact the majority of Republicans still think 2020 was a "stolen election" is more troubling to me. In comparison the conversation around was Kamala the right candidate, or are the democrats too "woke" on cultural issues doesn't matter. We have a problem with our news media and blatant misinformation/disinformation.

For the life of me, I cannot understand why politicians, and those talking about them are so easily allowed to lie. Companies will be sued if they falsely advertise or defraud customers. However we have such a high standard to prove defamation with public officials.

Per google - "When it comes to public officials, the First Amendment protects statements about their conduct unless they are made with "actual malice". This means that the person making the statement knew it was false or made it with reckless disregard for the truth."

This high standard is incredibly hard to prove. I understand why this is this case for average Joe on the street but Joe Rogan with his millions of listeners should have to follow a higher standard regarding the truth.

Yep.  Betting firms nailed it.  Polls were worse than ever.  In 2028 I'm not bothering with polls, instead I'll be looking at odds by professional statisticians.