This.  The whole NFL stuff was jabs at my position on betting firms...and funny enough, betting firms were right.

Fact is there is a side in this thread that is 100% refuses to listen.  Hard to learn when one doesn't listen.  

Devastating, but not entirely surprising. First and foremost the people to blame and point fingers at are those voting for Trump, they are the ones who decided to support the insanity.
There are a number of things democrats could have handled better. I think their campaign has for the most part been good, and all data I have seen suggests Kamala was as strong a candidate as anybody. She united the party in record time, came off as likeable and caring. Sure she might have had some wacky views in 2019-2020, but did anyone really believe they weren't just pandering? What the campaign failed to do was deliver something for male, especially young male voters. This has been a headache for the left in the west for a decade now, that the feminists and the so-called 'woke' have not managed to find a strong motivating message for white male voters.

Besides that, I think the campaign was strong. Hence Harris' major problem lies in the governing of Biden. The handling of the border has frankly been a disaster, they started the term appealing to the far left on this issue, then way too late they realized this is a major issue for the average American. The fentanyl crisis and Afghanistan withdrawals were problematic too, but I doubt it made a big difference in the election outcome. The economy probably did make a difference, even though Biden didn't really do any significant mistakes here, the inflation would have gone up no matter what he had done.

Anyway all this combined could definitely explain a Harris loss, but to a standard republican, not a radicalized MAGA lunatic. Had she and Biden done everything right, Trump would still be looking at 45 % of the votes.

So there is the main problem - the MAGA movement is fundamentally a dishonest political movement, not motivated by any real political ideas or visions, but feelings of anger, fear, paranoia and pride. It is a movement that is not actually explaining honestly what their issues are and what they believe would solve them (if they even agree on any of that), hence it is absolutely impossible to address with rational political solutions.
There are no real solutions to that, which are possible within the American system.

Europe is on a similar trajectory, but at least here the path is not set in stone. Politicians need to focus on solving some of the driving factors: increase manufacturing jobs, shut down the option for spontaneous assylum to avoid huge and fast demographic changes, facilitate the distribution of wealth, heavily regulate social media platforms, or even better- abolish them completely. Same with the use of artificial intelligence. Europe should also invest in military to defend itself, and unfortunately this includes getting substantially more nuclear weapons. This all seems very dark, but unfortunately it is not about making the World a better place anymore, but saving Europe from fascism, which is all we can hope for now.

8) Republicans are okay with a xenophobic felon as long as he promises them unattainable economic strategies and that he'll deport all the illegals. 

Kamala lied and I'd say in a more scummy way than trump. She ran ads in different states with different promises that contradicted the ads ran in other states. Ones where she'd say she funding for Isreal and then in a Jewish population say she believes Isreal has the right to defend itself and support would be given. 

Trump doesn't know what he's saying half the time, I don't think he intentionally lies, he's just really dumb and self centered. Kamala lies felt more scummy cause she's supposed to be the mature one, Trump is the idiot everyone can laugh at, somehow he gets away with lying. Like he said at one point, he could shoot someone in times square and he'd still have support the next day.  

Thought Rol was doing this.

Redskins Rule - Wikipedia

This just goes to show America's true character. We elect the leaders we deserve. Trump is going to win the electoral college and the popular vote for the first time. People either like or don't mind his rhetoric. They must like his policies and his promises.

It's hard for me to understand any of this. I am as anti-Trump as you can get. I think his first term was horrible. That he lost to Biden in 2020 gave me some hope that America could redeem itself. There is no excuse this time, it's not a quirk of the electoral college and people sitting out the election like 2016. This is a positive affirmation of Trump's popularity.

Who is to say what the Dems could have done to stop this? If only Biden was a few years younger. It's apparent he has some appeal to Whites, Middle America, Men that Hilary and Kamala simply can't replicate. Maybe inflation was too big an issue to overcome despite all of the other positive sides of the economy.

Biden is done politically. He probably wishes he stayed in the race.

Kamala is done politically. There is nowhere else for her to go. She likely planned on running in 2028 if Biden stayed atop the ticket, but obviously she is not viable.

Obama's appeal is limited. I doubt he will come out heavily for any future presidential candidates. We are so removed from his administration.

The Democrats are without any national leaders. I know Gavin Newsom has presidential aspirations. He was loyal to Biden and stepped aside for Kamala. I think he was aiming for a 2028 run anyway but being the governor of the state of California, the right's biggest punching bag, probably hurts him as much as it did not help Kamala.

I nevver felt good about Walz as a VP choice. All that talk about his charisma and being a good attack dog did not amount to anything. JD Vance was supposed to be so unlikable compared to him, but now is set to inherit the MAGA mantle.

I think Kelly would have been the better VP choice, if only for the optics. As a marine and astronaut, he appeared more manly than Walz who, despite his service in the National Guard, came off as a bit of a softee.

I don't know when we will get a female president. I think Dems will be too scared to field a female candidate anytime soon after two losses to Trump. I think some female Dems will try fo the nomination, but its clear that Dems have a disadvantage with men that women can't offset.

Maybe Biden should have never won for reelection and allowed the Dems to have a proper primary. Maybe they should have had a mini-primary instead of having a coronation for Kamala.

Trump is a unique political entity. He could get away with things that no other politician would. All of his many transgressions were washed away or tolerated by voters, while milder slip ups on the Dems side got amplified to oblivion.

I do not know if I have a point. I am just venting to process my feelings. I am not at all optimistic about America's (or the world's) future given these results. I love this country and being an American so much, but today it feels like a burden. At least Dems will respect the results and not lie about fraud and attempt an insurrection to turn over the results.

I'm spent.

From that page: "Most recently, the rule incorrectly predicted that Kamala Harris would win the 2024 US Presidential Election"

Pete Buttigeg

From Indiana with a service record, well spoke and incredibly articulate.  

And a well-known homosexual. That was never going to fly in conservative Middle America