Yeah given what we've seen Nintendo and their partners achieve on the Switch with games like Tears of the Kingdom, Luigi's Mansion 3, Metroid Prime Remastered, Mario Odyssey, etc, I can't wait to see what they can accomplish with far more resources.

12GB would be a great result for a Switch successor, and in fact a bigger leap in RAM than PS4 to PS5 or Xbox One to Xbox Series. I was honestly kinda worried we'd get 8GB in a bid to reduce costs.

I do think people are misunderstanding vram.  The size is how much can be stored and bandwidth is how fast data can be loaded and unloaded from the vram.  The ps4 was 176 gb/s and the ps5 is 448 gb/s.  That was a massive jump.  Don't get me wrong the switch to S2 is an absurd jump.  But I think people are focused way, way, way too much on size of the ram and are ignoring bandwidth.  

One of the reasons the Ally and Deck are limited in resolution and fps is because both of those require high memory bandwidths.  

Granted we don't know the exact bandwidth of Switch 2 yet, but given the Switch 1 had just 25GB/s, there's definitely the potential for enormous gains in speed as well as capacity. We'll have to wait and see, but it's definitely encouraging in the meantime that Nintendo seems not to have cut corners.

No doubt the S2 is a massive jump, as it should be, given the Switch is decade old technology.  My only point was don't rate the ps4 to ps5 just on amount, bandwidth is a huge player.  

In simple terms a still 5 gb image quality at:

30 fps needs 150 gb/s

60 fps needs 300 gb/s

120 fps needs 600 gb/s

Crank the resolution and image quality to 10 gb:

30 fps needs 300 gb/s

60 fps needs 600 gb/s

120 fps needs 1200 gb/s

This why only PC can do ultra settings, 4k at 100+ fps.

But yes, the S2 will be a powerful mobile device.  

PS4 to PS5 was roughly a 2.5 times increase in terms of speed by your numbers,  and 2 times in terms of total capacity.

So if Switch 2 is 12GB it's already a bigger leap in capacity, and if it's over 62.5GB/s then it's a bigger jump in speed too.

Just imagine what Game Freak will be able to do with Pokemon.  The next games could look at good as ps3/wii u games!

Probably a long way off but I'm most excited about a possible Luigi's Mansion 4.  The S2 should have dramatically better lighting and particles than the Switch.

I do think people are misunderstanding vram.  The size is how much can be stored and bandwidth is how fast data can be loaded and unloaded from the vram.  The ps4 was 176 gb/s and the ps5 is 448 gb/s.  That was a massive jump.  Don't get me wrong the switch to S2 is an absurd jump.  But I think people are focused way, way, way too much on size of the ram and are ignoring bandwidth.  

One of the reasons the Ally and Deck are limited in resolution and fps is because both of those require high memory bandwidths.  

It is a bigger jump, I'm not arguing that.  I was just pointing out rating the jump by amount only doesn't paint the full picture.  

7,600MT/s is 486.4Gb/s.
486.4Gb/s X2 (Two chips) = 972.8Gb/s.
972.8Gb/s /8 (8 bits in a byte) = 121.6GB/s.

For comparison sake...

Playstation 4: 176GB/s.
Playstation 4 Pro: 217.6GB/s.
Xbox One: 68.3GB/s
Xbox Series X: 326GB/s.
Xbox Series S: 224GB/s.

So it definitely beats the Xbox One, but falls short of the Playstation 4.

HOWEVER... There are a ton of caveats to this which the raw numbers which everyone clings to doesn't tell us.

Things like Delta Colour Compression, Mesh Shading, Improved Culling and compression and even things like Tiled-based rasterization that the Playstation 4 and Xbox One didn't have... Means that it has more bandwidth to play with than the 121.6GB/s of memory bandwidth implies.

The real disappointment is the 12GB memory buffer, it's not enough.

But like all things... This is all rumor and not fact at this point.

Not really. It depends how wide you want to take it... Because you can implement LPDDR2 in such a way that it offers more bandwidth than LPDDR5X.

LPDDR5X also does go higher than the rumored 7500MT/s. - 8533MT/s, 9600MT/s, 10700MT/s exist for example, so Nintendo wouldn't be using the latest and greatest in DRAM.
10700MT/s would put the bandwidth at 171.2GB/s which is in spitting distance of the PS4 and more in line with an RTX3050 which would be preferable.

I would have rather liked to have seen 16GB of memory at the very least... The current layout ensures we will have a 96bit or 192bit memory bus, likely 96bit to keep costs down or a silly clam-shell memory layout.

And 12GB is not a lot of memory in 2024, let alone in 2025 and beyond.
16GB is considered the minimum these days... And we need to also keep in mind that Nintendo's OS tends to be memory hungry and will likely steal 2-4GB of that 12GB leaving 8-10GB for developers, which is a pittance.
Remember the Series S is very memory starved and that has over 8GB for developers out of 10GB.

Things like DLSS, Ray Tracing and more want more Ram.

Comparing it to iPad's and Phones is doing the device a disservice, they are utilitarian devices, not purely gaming devices. Ram and GPU is the priority in a gaming device which reinforces the need for different priorities in hardware.

You can commonly find 521 GB nvme drives for $40-50.
Is that really such an expensive technology any more that they have to go with an alternative?

12 GB of RAM sounds good though. It's not 16, but I was worried they'd go with 8.

Sounds like it migth be somewhere around PS4 Pro - Series S.
Which is also better than expected.

12 gb is huge :) thats nice, was one of my worries, that they might to too low.

I do think people are misunderstanding vram.  The size is how much can be stored and bandwidth is how fast data can be loaded and unloaded from the vram.  The ps4 was 176 gb/s and the ps5 is 448 gb/s.  That was a massive jump.  Don't get me wrong the switch to S2 is an absurd jump.  But I think people are focused way, way, way too much on size of the ram and are ignoring bandwidth.  

One of the reasons the Ally and Deck are limited in resolution and fps is because both of those require high memory bandwidths.