And I do wonder why you listed it as a third party game then.

But to be a bit more constructive, I don't see a point in continuing here, because in the end nobody was misled into believing that Bayonetta 2+3 could come to Steam despite it getting called a third party game. This here was just a discussion about using the correct definitions and it was long enough already for both of us. If nothing else, it being long enough is one point we can both fully agree on.

Do you know what's bad for the industry? Spending 70 billion to buy a publisher. Buying everyone up but being a Monopoly is the MS way. EA buying studios then shutting them down is bad for the industry. It's the same for Embracer and every big studio. You know what else is bad? Laying off thousands of people while CEO's get millions in pay raises.

But this thread is mad about Bayonetta, Final Fantasy, or whatever being on one console. Big fucking whoop.

Just so I am clear: every time you complain about a Sony third-party deal, you're doing fo because of what exactly? Because if you you don't actually know the specifics behind the deal there shouldn't be any reason for you to keep calling them 'moneyhats'. 

The day of exclusives is coming to an end. I said it years ago~!, all hail the new age where you can play whatever game you like on whatever platform you like as long as it has the specs.

 Because it was made by a third party and the IP (e.g. cereza) is owned by Sega whom doesn't make hardware anymore.

Happy to move on as well.  

I am not arguing if it's hurting the devs, I am debating that it's hurting the industry. Industry meaning pushing console manufacturers to be even better and not rely on paying to hurt competition but to use the money invested to create better products and more games. I have given you the plus sides if this became a reality and your entire argument is "Devs won't survive without deals and it's been happening for decades." Even through I proved to you that plenty of games release with no deals in place. 

What are you talking about? This isn't about just Sony moneyhatting games. 

If you have read my posts, you would see that I am speaking on the industry as a whole, and a hypothetical on the industry being better if exclusive deals didn't exist. This isn't Sony focus.

It's what I've been seeing the industry slowly become as well. Crazy to think people believe this is a bad thing to happen. 

So years ago you said the "the days of exclusives is coming to an end". And here you are present day saying... "the days of exclusives is coming to an end",

Which means years have gone by without "the days of exclusives coming to an end".

Which is wild since you are saying that after one of the consoles has bought out multiple publishers making the games MORE exclusive by removing them from other consoles.

"Raises hand" as the owner of a PS5, PS4, PS3, Xbox Series X, Xbox Series S, OG Switch, Switch OLED , iPhone 13 Pro Max and a gaming PC....

Anyways, I personally would love to see all third party games (like FF7 Remake/Rebirth and the Vanillaware games) going full multiplatform.

I think the ideal industry would be that plus first party games being completely exclusive to their own ecosystem which would encourage platform makers to focus on creating as much first party titles to give a valid reason to people to buy their platform.

But it looks like we're going on a path where 99% of the third party games are multiplatform (more than 1 system) with two of the three first parties releasing their first party IPs on multiplatform.

Closest to what we'll get I guess.