Yeah, you're right. You can see why it wasn't tried on the PS4 as it was chugging a bit on S2.

Repeatedly though they compared the overall presentation to the last gen ports. Hopefully they can optimise and pull a rabbit out of the hat!

I think it was also mentioned in that video that the stream deck was potentially more capable than S2 undocked which is a wee bit disappointing. 

Just like a lot of people are pointing out that Nintendo is evolving away from introducing new hardware gimmicks each gen and that they're not bound by their previous generations norms, I was hoping they'd also be a tad more ambitious with the hardware. A small battery & 8nm seems to have dictated quite modest clocks 

That's why I'd love a home version, theoretically running at full whack. Aware though that that's unlikely. 

PS4 settings are pretty much the same thing as Steam Deck (preset) settings, which both are roughly a mix of low, medium, and high settings of the PC title. There is a Steam Deck preset designed to run at 800p 30fps (with FSR Balanced so really more like 540p internally.) 

These are the preset settings

When I run that preset on my Rog Ally Z1E (a handheld that is 30% stronger than the base Steam Deck) I need to run it at 720p (slightly worse than 540p internally) to get a stable 40fps. This is what the game looks like. 

This is what the game looks like when I target 1080p (~720p internally) and 30fps. 

Here is what the game looks like on Switch 2

So yes, it's comparable, but the Series S version isn't much higher than this in terms of graphics quality settings (a few more high toggles rather than medium.) Where the Series S shines is in resolution and frame-rate. 

The Switch 2 version (docked) is targeting settings/performance similar to (if not slightly better than, given they want 1080p 30fps) the Rog Ally version given CDPR's performance goals. That makes sense because the Switch 2 is roughly on par with a Rog Ally. This is a half-tier above the PS4/Steam Deck in terms of image quality/performance, and a half-tier below the Series S in terms of image quality/performance. 

I don't consider that disappointing really. It's what you would expect for a demanding multi-platform game. 

And when it comes to online discussions, what seems to matter is people putting so much stock in the outcome of their favorite video game console that they have to invent magical forms of logic and reasoning in order to sleep at night. There is so much confirmation bias, so much walled-garden mass delusion going on around here and other like-places, that I literally can't handle it anymore. It's like trying to point out Trump's flaws to the MAGA crowd. People want to believe what they want to believe, and curse my ego for thinking I might be able to help them in some sort of way, or to expect them to see what is clearly all around them. I mean, when NOA's own president is doing his best Don Mattric impersonation, and the former president of Playstation is going on record, saying things like Nintendo is losing their identity... you'd think at the very least people would smell a hint of smoke. But apparently, that's not the case. And I no longer really have it in me to help them get there. The console will launch, and over the next few years, the results will be what they are regardless of anyone's opinions. I can only hope that when that day comes, the people who were on the wrong side of the issue, pro or con, can actually accept it and grow, otherwise... sigh.

Until then, I'm bowing out.

On this particular point, Shuhei's way off base there.

He claims that Nintendo is about "creating new experiences" and that a stronger Switch doesn't do that, yet he's overlooking both the addition of mouse controls which enables new experiences, and the fact that Nintendo has made stronger iterative hardware before and that the new experiences come primarily from their first party software, not necessarily from a new hardware feature.

It's just not sustainable to expect them to throw out all their previous success in order to reinvent the wheel every generation, this can backfire spectacularly for instance as it did for Wii U.

By his logic, SNES or GBA would be Nintendo "losing their identity" too since those were just more powerful versions of NES/Gameboy.

Self-criticism? If not, thats pretty ironic lol

I would say it's a mix of PS4/Xbox Series S with current gen features like 120fps.

Hate to break it to some people but Nintendo was doing the iterative console upgrade ages before Sony and Microsoft even showed up. 

In fact you could say they largely invented the whole damn concept. NES to SNES was the first really successful hardware transition from successful console to another successful console. 

So Sony can fuck right off if they want to act like they some how have ownership of that idea now, lol, bunch of frauds. It would be like JJ Abrams claiming he invented Star Wars with The Force Awakens. 

You forgot Reggie "subtly" smacking them with his story about free pack-in game for Wii and having to fight Miyamoto over including Wii Sports for free in Americas and Europe.

Yeah, DF are bit off comparing it to stock PS4 - even with its anemic texture fill rate and memory bandwidth, Switch 2 is ahead of PS4 in pretty much everything comparable, let alone when tech that PS4 doesn't have is accounted for.

That said, I can see why they chose "curb your enthusiasm" path for now, instead of going unhinged with wild comparisons (like some fans tend to, since Wii U onward).

Speaking of DF, they should really bring in someone way more tech savvy, that kid at Threat Interactive (he comes off very rough, but speaks the facts) is ripping them a new one with detailed rendering analyses of unoptimized games DF proclaimed to be tech marvels and calling them out on praising shit like TAA.

I mean it kinda goes both ways, for every over-zealous fan proclaiming the Switch 2 is a handheld PS5, you have a lot of widespread misinformation like the notion that Switch 1 was on par or even weaker than PS3/360, or that Switch 2 is on par with a base PS4.

Reality falls somewhere in the middle.