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Switch 2 is out! How you classify?

Terribly outdated! 3 5.00%
 
Outdated 1 1.67%
 
Slightly outdated 15 25.00%
 
On point 33 55.00%
 
High tech! 7 11.67%
 
A mixed bag 1 1.67%
 
Total:60
Soundwave said:
Pemalite said:

The Switch 2 is double the price and is bulkier than the Switch Lite.
We can move that goal post around all day.

You want the better device with better hardware? You ironically need to pay for it, who would have thought?

And the Switch 2 is a waaaaaaaaaay better device than the Switch 1 Lite, a full generation ahead easily of the Switch Lite, the ROG Ally X can run games moderately better than the Switch 2 but is no where near a generational uplift while needing to be much bulkier and having a smaller screen for more than double the cost. No detachable Joycons either. 

At $1000 it's a niche, niche device, if that's where you have to go to get better than Switch 2 performance in a still bulkier form factor, than Nintendo delivered good hardware bang for their buck. 

The Switch 1 Lite would be more like a Playstation 1 in your analogy, the Switch 2 being a PS2, and the ROG Ally X being an original XBox (2001), but it would be if the XBox cost $1000 while the PS2 was $450. 

And the ROG Ally X has a game library of over 200,000+ games. (With 120,000 games being Steam alone) which is a vastly larger games library than the Switch 1+Switch 2. (11,000+320)

The Rog Ally X can run games (especially older titles) better than the Switch 2. (Think Crysis) and at 60fps thanks to it's vastly superior CPU.

Like I said, you get what you pay for.
The ROG Ally X has a CPU that is a generation ahead of the Switch 2. 
The Rog Ally X has significantly more RAM for better textures.

At $1000 you get more value due to the sheer scale of it's game library spanning 9x console generations with better performance and graphics.
...And evenb ignoring that the ROG Ally X is often on sale for $799 anyway.

This is fun. Lets keep playing the goal post shifting game.

Just remember your argument was:
1) Switch 2 is cheaper than the ROG Ally X. - But the Switch Lite is cheaper than the Switch 2. - So either price matters or it doesn't?

2) Switch 2 is a sleeker device than the ROG Ally X. - But the Switch Lite is smaller, thinner and sleeker than the Switch 2. - So does size and form factor matter or not?

If your argument applies to one device,  it can apply to other options as well.

Remember the Switch Lite has a longer battery life as well.

Also remember the Switch Lite can also play 98% of the games of the Switch 2.
Also remember the Switch Lite's LCD display exhibits less ghosting and input lag than the Switch 2. It's functionally a better display.





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Switch 2 to Ally X is very much apples to oranges, one is a mass market closed-box system targeting the mainstream consumer, the other is an open platform enthusiast device targeting a niche audience.

It's kinda like Xbox Series S vs a desktop PC, they're just radically different products.

Switch Lite vs Switch 2 also needs to be put in context; the Lite is a machine near the end of it's life while Switch 2 just came out and is backwards compatible, so while much of the library may be shared now just as PS5's was with PS4 when it was new, (albeit with massively improved performance on the successor) it won't remain that way; Switch Lite will not get the next mainline Mario, mainline Zelda, the next Animal Crossing, Splatoon, probably not the next generation of Pokémon, etc, so Switch 2 offers a lot more value going forwards as a system that's likely going to be supported for the next 7-8 years or so.



Pragmata | Switch 2 vs ROG XBox Ally X

ROGX is struggling at 13W and FSR3 quality mode. It does work much better at 25W and FSR3 balanced.



numberwang said:

Pragmata | Switch 2 vs ROG XBox Ally X

ROGX is struggling at 13W and FSR3 quality mode. It does work much better at 25W and FSR3 balanced.

For $1000 (2x+ the price) I expect better than that to be honest. That is reminiscent of the difference between like a PS2 and an XBox (OG) except there is a monstrous price difference. To say this is the same thing as the difference between a Switch 1 Lite and a Switch 2 is laughably misleading, this game would look and run terrible on a Switch 1 Lite if it could run at all (or games like Star Wars Outlaws or Indiana Jones & The Great Circle, good luck even getting those to run on a Switch 1 Lite). 

$1000 is an extreme niche for any game device, it won't even sell Wii U or Vita numbers, probably not even Virtual Boy pace numbers (lol). Virtual Boy sold 770k in one year, I doubt the ROG Ally X can do even that. So that's about as close to irrelevant as you can get. If Nintendo were to make a $1000 machine they'd be morons, the system would sell worse than the Wii U, but if they did they'd likely get better performance than that. For $700-$800, Nintendo could give you likely an OLED display at 8-inches + double the CUDA cores at least + double the current Switch 2's RAM, though the system would be bulkier and heavier (but so is a ROG Ally X), and still be several hundred dollars cheaper. 

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I always felt the PC handhelds were disappointing for the price. A lot of that has to do with FSR being crap.

Having said that the next round of PC handhelds, like the Deck 2, will likely tromp the S2 in performance. The cpu/gpu will be massively upgraded and FSR4 will be supported, which is as good, if not better than DLSS lite.

All that said, still not trading my S2 in for anything because of the exclusive software.

All this is pretty simple and obvious IMHO.

Nintendo did as expected with the S2.  Sacrificed power for price and landed between a ps4 and ps4 pro.  Which is a huge upgrade over the S1 and ps4 like games still look/play great.  



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Chrkeller said:

I always felt the PC handhelds were disappointing for the price. A lot of that has to do with FSR being crap.

Having said that the next round of PC handhelds, like the Deck 2, will likely tromp the S2 in performance. The cpu/gpu will be massively upgraded and FSR4 will be supported, which is as good, if not better than DLSS lite.

All that said, still not trading my S2 in for anything because of the exclusive software.

All this is pretty simple and obvious IMHO.

Nintendo did as expected with the S2.  Sacrificed power for price and landed between a ps4 and ps4 pro.  Which is a huge upgrade over the S1 and ps4 like games still look/play great.  

Switch 2 is really at the good price point right now imo, given what's happening with hardware prices. Valve is not selling LCD Steam Deck 256GB anymore from what I am seeing. Next iteration of Steam Deck might not be released at all, as it would cost at least $599 and still sold at loss.

Given the fact that Sony and Microsoft are releasing their handhelds, the market will be really crowded. Nintendo might release more powerful versions of Switch 2 like they did with DS brand to offer more than competitors. Personally, I am thrilled for something like Switch 2 Pro with OLED screen or even a better device like DSi. That way Ninny can remain at top of handheld market while still pursuing their blue ocean strategy.



ConciousMan said:
Chrkeller said:

I always felt the PC handhelds were disappointing for the price. A lot of that has to do with FSR being crap.

Having said that the next round of PC handhelds, like the Deck 2, will likely tromp the S2 in performance. The cpu/gpu will be massively upgraded and FSR4 will be supported, which is as good, if not better than DLSS lite.

All that said, still not trading my S2 in for anything because of the exclusive software.

All this is pretty simple and obvious IMHO.

Nintendo did as expected with the S2.  Sacrificed power for price and landed between a ps4 and ps4 pro.  Which is a huge upgrade over the S1 and ps4 like games still look/play great.  

Switch 2 is really at the good price point right now imo, given what's happening with hardware prices. Valve is not selling LCD Steam Deck 256GB anymore from what I am seeing. Next iteration of Steam Deck might not be released at all, as it would cost at least $599 and still sold at loss.

Given the fact that Sony and Microsoft are releasing their handhelds, the market will be really crowded. Nintendo might release more powerful versions of Switch 2 like they did with DS brand to offer more than competitors. Personally, I am thrilled for something like Switch 2 Pro with OLED screen or even a better device like DSi. That way Ninny can remain at top of handheld market while still pursuing their blue ocean strategy.

ConciousMan said:
Chrkeller said:

I always felt the PC handhelds were disappointing for the price. A lot of that has to do with FSR being crap.

Having said that the next round of PC handhelds, like the Deck 2, will likely tromp the S2 in performance. The cpu/gpu will be massively upgraded and FSR4 will be supported, which is as good, if not better than DLSS lite.

All that said, still not trading my S2 in for anything because of the exclusive software.

All this is pretty simple and obvious IMHO.

Nintendo did as expected with the S2.  Sacrificed power for price and landed between a ps4 and ps4 pro.  Which is a huge upgrade over the S1 and ps4 like games still look/play great.  

Switch 2 is really at the good price point right now imo, given what's happening with hardware prices. Valve is not selling LCD Steam Deck 256GB anymore from what I am seeing. Next iteration of Steam Deck might not be released at all, as it would cost at least $599 and still sold at loss.

Given the fact that Sony and Microsoft are releasing their handhelds, the market will be really crowded. Nintendo might release more powerful versions of Switch 2 like they did with DS brand to offer more than competitors. Personally, I am thrilled for something like Switch 2 Pro with OLED screen or even a better device like DSi. That way Ninny can remain at top of handheld market while still pursuing their blue ocean strategy.

Wholly agree.  The S2 price is fantastic.  I have two in the house, one for my daughter.  No way I would have bought two units at $1000.  Nintendo made the correct move with the price versus power position.  



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Pemalite said:
Soundwave said:

ROG Ally X again is double the cost and far bulkier of a device, one would hope it can run something better, if a console was double the cost of a PS5 it would be a flat out embarrassment if it couldn't run games notably better. If I pay double for a GPU, I obviously also would expect better performance. 

The Switch 2 is double the price and is bulkier than the Switch Lite.
We can move that goal post around all day.

You want the better device with better hardware? You ironically need to pay for it, who would have thought?

And [insert best PC specs you can come up with today] can play [insert game] better than the PS5 Pro. Those comparisons between devices in far different price ranges make no sense. Yes, Pokémon Z-A looks and plays better on the Switch 2 than on the Switch Lite, but no one is debating that or using it against the Switch Lite.



Pemalite said:
Soundwave said:

And the Switch 2 is a waaaaaaaaaay better device than the Switch 1 Lite, a full generation ahead easily of the Switch Lite, the ROG Ally X can run games moderately better than the Switch 2 but is no where near a generational uplift while needing to be much bulkier and having a smaller screen for more than double the cost. No detachable Joycons either. 

At $1000 it's a niche, niche device, if that's where you have to go to get better than Switch 2 performance in a still bulkier form factor, than Nintendo delivered good hardware bang for their buck. 

The Switch 1 Lite would be more like a Playstation 1 in your analogy, the Switch 2 being a PS2, and the ROG Ally X being an original XBox (2001), but it would be if the XBox cost $1000 while the PS2 was $450. 

And the ROG Ally X has a game library of over 200,000+ games. (With 120,000 games being Steam alone) which is a vastly larger games library than the Switch 1+Switch 2. (11,000+320)

The Rog Ally X can run games (especially older titles) better than the Switch 2. (Think Crysis) and at 60fps thanks to it's vastly superior CPU.

Like I said, you get what you pay for.
The ROG Ally X has a CPU that is a generation ahead of the Switch 2. 
The Rog Ally X has significantly more RAM for better textures.

At $1000 you get more value due to the sheer scale of it's game library spanning 9x console generations with better performance and graphics.
...And evenb ignoring that the ROG Ally X is often on sale for $799 anyway.

This is fun. Lets keep playing the goal post shifting game.

Just remember your argument was:
1) Switch 2 is cheaper than the ROG Ally X. - But the Switch Lite is cheaper than the Switch 2. - So either price matters or it doesn't?

2) Switch 2 is a sleeker device than the ROG Ally X. - But the Switch Lite is smaller, thinner and sleeker than the Switch 2. - So does size and form factor matter or not?

If your argument applies to one device,  it can apply to other options as well.

Remember the Switch Lite has a longer battery life as well.

Also remember the Switch Lite can also play 98% of the games of the Switch 2.
Also remember the Switch Lite's LCD display exhibits less ghosting and input lag than the Switch 2. It's functionally a better display.


And again, this is just "PC is better than PS5". Why are you having that discussion, in the year of our lord, 2026?



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Switch 2 offers graphics and performance mode but Series S is limited to 30fps.

Last edited by numberwang - 3 hours ago