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1997, Game of the Year

Age of Empires 3 3.26%
 
Diablo 5 5.43%
 
Castlevania: Symphony of the Night 7 7.61%
 
Final Fantasy VII 37 40.22%
 
Final Fantasy Tactics 3 3.26%
 
Gran Turismo 0 0%
 
Diddy Kong Racing 4 4.35%
 
Goldeneye 007 16 17.39%
 
Starfox 64 8 8.70%
 
Other (please specify) 9 9.78%
 
Total:92
HoloDust said:

I haven't ranked my favourite games in ages - it is lengthy process, I use Pub Meeple ranking engine, which is best for boardgames, since it can draw data directly from your BoardGameGeek account, but it can be used for anything with custom list - it is "choose one from two items" process, and then it goes on like that for quite a while comparing items from your list, until it finally, after lot of iterations, makes a list - the more items you have, the lengthier the process.

Comparing two random items and building a list from these comparisons? Hmm, that is exactly what I do. Only that I wrote the program that does this myself. Thing is though, I save in a Postgres-DB and it is a command line program, so that is not very accessible for everyone:

As you can see I type 1 for the left item and two for the one on the right, I would type 3 for a draw. For the list I add the positive votes and subtract the negative and divide it with the number of total votes (including the draws) for that item + 1. So it goes from +100% to -100%, although both ends it can never reach.

I think I could change it to use SQLite, so it saves into a file instead of a DB-Server and make a graphical UI. Uhm, I also have to include an interface to add items, as currently I just add them directly in the DB, as I can SQL. The upside for me is, that now over some years with the greatest game event, I only ever have to add new games and make some rating, as I keep the DB with the items and the previous ratings. I don't start over each time. So, would there be interest in something like that? And also I am not sure how fast I can do that, probably need vacation to concentrate on the project and not being distracted by work.



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HoloDust said:

I haven't ranked my favourite games in ages - it is lengthy process, I use Pub Meeple ranking engine, which is best for boardgames, since it can draw data directly from your BoardGameGeek account, but it can be used for anything with custom list - it is "choose one from two items" process, and then it goes on like that for quite a while comparing items from your list, until it finally, after lot of iterations, makes a list - the more items you have, the lengthier the process.

(..)

Thanks for mentioning that, didn't know. Tried it with my own Top 50 list from last year from the end of the year favourite games threads and a bunch more games and it actually comes out pretty consistent with my own list. The top 10 comes out exactly the same lol.



HoloDust said:

I haven't ranked my favourite games in ages - it is lengthy process, I use Pub Meeple ranking engine, which is best for boardgames, since it can draw data directly from your BoardGameGeek account, but it can be used for anything with custom list - it is "choose one from two items" process, and then it goes on like that for quite a while comparing items from your list, until it finally, after lot of iterations, makes a list - the more items you have, the lengthier the process.

Anyway, Fallout 1 and 2 come up fairly frequently on top places - I like Fallout 1 somewhat more, cause it was first and that first playthrough when you don't know much about that world, and the clock is ticking, was one of the best gaming experiences I ever had. But I find Fallout 2 to actually be a better game - it expanded on the world and on the gameplay quite a bit, giving you more freedom to tackle things differently, and is, to date, one of the games that does best representation of what RPGs are about. So much that my younger son (15y), after playing Baldur's Gate 3, which he enjoyed, decidedly announced that Fallout 2 is "much better CRPG". Made me proud.

I do however find that Fallout 1 and 2 are somewhere in the 8-9/10 range. Now, I'm am bit on a harsh side with scoring, even with my most beloved games, compared to current distorted standards where everything is "10/10 masterpiece", and while RPGs are notoriously hard to make properly, I do find that there was still lot of things that could be improved and built upon in following Fallouts - if there was actually to be Fallout 3. We all know how that went, with Interplay going bust.

Such a pity Bethesda got their hands on IP, they really never understood (or didn't give a shit) what is the core of Fallout - “My idea is to explore more of the world and more of the ethics of a post-nuclear world, not to make a better plasma gun.”  / Tim Cain, creator of Fallout

I appreciate Fallout 2 but I don't consider it better than the original. In fact, I consider it a much more diluted experience. It's a bigger, more ambitious game for sure but the story doesn't pack a punch like the first game does (and it has several issues which I won't go into to avoid ranting lol). Plus, the amount of stuff they re-used from the original game, particularly the whole OST to the point of using a non-important track from the first game as the track for the final area of the game. For someone like me who really likes gaming OSTs, that was just unforgivable!

But still, Fallout 2 is a good game and I enjoy playing it from time to time. It's just not as good as the first game for me. Also, congrats on having a son who appreciates older games! If my wife and I ever end up having children, I sure hope I have your luck! lol Agreed 100% on Bethesda getting the IP. I remember years ago being so hyped to finally play Fallout 3 when I got my PS3. While it ended up being a fun game, the story didn't feel like Fallout and they screwed the pooch big time with the ending by

Spoiler!
not letting you save yourself with your mutant companion UNLESS you have the stupid DLC.


Screw Bethesda! Really. I don't have an Xbox so I guess I won't be playing the next Fallout but I wish they would leave it in the hands of Obsidian who are also a part of MS nowadays. Those guys really know how to make a Fallout game.



Final Fantasy certainly deserves this year for its powerful influence. This is the year we saw the power shift from Nintendo to Sony and it all happened with Squares decision to change partnerships.



1997 includes 2 of my favourite games of all time. FF7 and Crash Bandicoot 2. And Crash 2 isn't even on the list. :(

Needless to say, what fucking year for gaming!



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I would love to see Microsoft do isometric remakes of Fallout 1 and 2, and then an original isometric Fallout.



Only one answer, the goat ff7



 

The Fury said:

1997 includes 2 of my favourite games of all time. FF7 and Crash Bandicoot 2. And Crash 2 isn't even on the list. :(

Needless to say, what fucking year for gaming!

I agree.  There were about 30 truly great games that released in 1997.  That's why there is an "Other" category.  If this were an off year, then a lot of those games listed under "other notable games" would have made it into the poll.  There were just too many good choices this year.



What a year! Picked FF7, a close 2nd to FF6 which is my favorite RPG of all time.