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Leynos said:

Bungie is dead. I'd be shocked it Sony hasn't shut them down before the end of next year. Marathon is going to be the final nail in that coffin.

EDIT. https://thegamepost.com/report-marathon-delay-bungie-scraps-all-paid-marketing/

Sony isn't going to shutdown Bungie when they still have the Destiny IP. 

At worst they take full control, get rid of upper management like Pete Parsons, perhaps with some additional layoffs, and turn them into a Destiny factory for the foreseeable future. They aren't Firewalk or Haven even if Marathon bombs hard.



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PotentHerbs said:
Leynos said:

Bungie is dead. I'd be shocked it Sony hasn't shut them down before the end of next year. Marathon is going to be the final nail in that coffin.

EDIT. https://thegamepost.com/report-marathon-delay-bungie-scraps-all-paid-marketing/

Sony isn't going to shutdown Bungie when they still have the Destiny IP. 

At worst they take full control, get rid of upper management like Pete Parsons, perhaps with some additional layoffs, and turn them into a Destiny factory for the foreseeable future. They aren't Firewalk or Haven even if Marathon bombs hard.

Take control, make Destiny 3 and let it running it quietly. Would be so stupid to kill a $3.6B studio that has a massive IP.



BraLoD said:

Take control, make Destiny 3 and let it running it quietly. Would be so stupid to kill a $3.6B studio that has a massive IP.

Its a silly take that would really only be entertained on enthusiast forums lol.



haxxiy said:

The "problem" is that a single successful GAAS game like Helldivers 2 likely makes such absurd amounts of profit that it's worth 5-6 cancellations or a few AAA 10+ million-sellers on its own.

Sony will continue to chase that golden goose as long as it's there.

This is pretty much why they went ahead and greenlit so many of them. This risk to get into the live service business probably made more sense than building 1 or 2, cancelling them/ or having them fail, then green lighting more. Former position means they can get a few potential live service out at the same time, latter means they could be waiting decades to do so.

The real issue is Sony not being more hands-on with these, because it sounds like they gave these studios more freedom than perhaps they should've had.

PotentHerbs said:

The worst part about Sony's live service initiative was them buying relatively unknown studios like Firewalk/Haven. But they are essentially taking the same risk whenever they create a brand new studio like Team LFG or Dark Outlaw Games.

I actually see the Bungie acquisition being similar to Microsoft acquiring Rare in the sense that it might take some time for it to truly start paying off. But honestly Sony needed an inhouse FPS studio like Bungie anyway. They legitimately filled a gap in their portfolio.

I think at the end of the day, even established studios can screw up and we've seen them shut down over the last 5 or so years. So really, it's a gamble either way.

At least with a new studio they aren't paying to own an established studio with an established IP.

Leynos said:

Bungie is dead. I'd be shocked it Sony hasn't shut them down before the end of next year. Marathon is going to be the final nail in that coffin.

EDIT. https://thegamepost.com/report-marathon-delay-bungie-scraps-all-paid-marketing/

Doubtful. They may lose staff, but Sony will most definitely take full ownership of them first before shutting them down. Reports indicated that there were members of the team that wanted to work on SP stuff. I would imagine that Sony would greenlight such a project if there's a push for it, but probably alongside a Destiny 3. What Sony really needs to do is get them fixing Destiny 2 onboarding: not only would that be important for sustaining Destiny 2 for longer, but it's such an issue that it needs to be fixed 100% day 1 Destiny 3 goes live. 



The best thing for Bungie in the long run would be delaying Marathon, even if Marathon fails, at least a delay would almost certainly get rid of Bungie's leadership, I had read before that there are certain revenue goals they need to meet otherwise they aren't entitled to bonuses and Sony can then take full control, if that is true then well, I'm rooting for a Marathon delay.

There's going to be short term pain for Bungie but this leadership has been dragging Bungie down for over a decade now. The only issue is finding a suitable replacement and I don't really think it should be someone from within Sony but rather someone promoted from within Bungie, there are still plenty of very talented employees at Bungie, plenty who have been with Bungie for over a decade and genuinely care for the studio, I fear an outsider would just cause more problems.



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With Joe Staten being free, maybe Sony should consider throwing him a bag of cash to come back to Bungie, after they fire the management that screwed him over. I think Joe would still care about Bungie. Though it's a lot to manage for one person so maybe it should be a joint CEO operation with Joe focused on the creative side and someone else focused on the business side.

Last edited by Ryuu96 - on 27 May 2025

Got through Mission 11 on DMC5 SE. 15 hours in.

That boss fight was pretty awesome, they went over the top using Nelo Angelo's design to the point its obvious who the main villain is.

So from playing all 3 characters, I would say, the only thing I dont like about DMC5 Dante is how often the weapons change automatically, I'm assuming this is the case because I have auto assist on and its changing automatically so I can do better combos?

Anyways aside from that , I love playing as Dante but I still personally like playing as Nero in the game. V is pretty good but I prefer sword fights rather than using familiars.



BasilZero said:

Got through Mission 11 on DMC5 SE. 15 hours in.

That boss fight was pretty awesome, they went over the top using Nelo Angelo's design to the point its obvious who the main villain is.

So from playing all 3 characters, I would say, the only thing I dont like about DMC5 Dante is how often the weapons change automatically, I'm assuming this is the case because I have auto assist on and its changing automatically so I can do better combos?

Anyways aside from that , I love playing as Dante but I still personally like playing as Nero in the game. V is pretty good but I prefer sword fights rather than using familiars.

Yeah, that only happens if you have auto-assist on. Also, I should say in that mission, no one tells you this, nor can it be seen. Lady's Rocketlauncher can be picked up in that level. As far as I know, the only weapon in the game that's a secret and entirely invisible until after picking it up. It's in the collapsed building.



Bite my shiny metal cockpit!

Ryuu96 said:

With Joe Staten being free, maybe Sony should consider throwing him a bag of cash to come back to Bungie, after they fire the management that screwed him over. I think Joe would still care about Bungie. Though it's a lot to manage for one person so maybe it should be a joint CEO operation with Joe focused on the creative side and someone else focused on the business side.

I would loooooove to see Staten’s original story for Destiny. From the leaks of what was in store shows we missed out on something special! 



You called down the thunder, now reap the whirlwind

Leynos said:

Yeah, that only happens if you have auto-assist on. Also, I should say in that mission, no one tells you this, nor can it be seen. Lady's Rocketlauncher can be picked up in that level. As far as I know, the only weapon in the game that's a secret and entirely invisible until after picking it up. It's in the collapsed building.

Oh wow...I probably saw this and thought it was just a prop lol