I'm happy to see some of the usa people trying to fight it how they can.


| konnichiwa said: Gonna make it short, most people are not interested in it (anymore), the question is if the democrats would even bring it back if they are back in power, it is more a symbolic issue. TLC became slop because viewers are more interested in the slop. This is an issue everywhere, Tiktok has an option to show you more STEM educational related content but people barely turn it on because they are more interested in AI Slop. Education being a mess is a Bipartisan and partly cultural issue. |
That's exactly my point. That's why non-profit educational television should be a thing. Since PBS was not a commercial outlet depending on ad revenue, and instead got a good chunk of its funding from the federal government through the CPB, it could focus on things like education television for the sake of educational television. It never had to worry about ratings or ad rates or any of that and it was never subject to the whims of executives poring over the latest bit of market research in the hopes of finding the cheapest thing to produce that gets the most eyeballs. And that's a good thing. It insulates it from the network decay and general enshittification that happened with oh so many television networks. But now PBS & NPR have been sent to scramble to find revenue sources to make up the shortfall due to Trump killing off the CPB.
Not everything needs to be run on a for-profit basis!
| SanAndreasX said: When the only tool you have in your toolbox is a hammer, every problem looks like a nail. The American approach to policing in a nutshell. |
It's a common American approach to everything. There's this pervasive idea that violence isn't just a solution, not just the ideal solution, but the only solution. To everything. Have a problem? Hit it. Is it still a problem? You clearly weren't hitting it hard enough or often enough. Cooperation is to be enforced not through mutual trust and respect, but through fear. Fear of the omnipresent threat of outright physical force. The normalization of violence as the default method of conflict resolution begins in youth, where centuries of received "wisdom" has told people that corporal punishment is the best way to get children to comply. Pain, or the threat thereof, is simply assumed to be a sufficient incentive. Research shows that it is no more effective than other means, and can possibly mess you up mentally, but people will still argue "Well, my parents used corporal punishment to discipline me and I turned out fine!" Yeah sure, buddy. Combine that with culture of toxic individualism and we wonder why we have a country full of people who are willing to throw hands over the smallest slight, because they were taught that respect must literally be beaten into people.
Now step that mentality up to armed law enforcement and you have an entire group of people who have decided that any resistance to their authority must be met with violence, including lethal force if they feel the need to do so. And as we've seen over the years, they don't need much incentive to pull the trigger. They need even less incentive to intimidate and physically abuse people for no good reason. Again, they're like if someone gave the school bully a gun and a badge.
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My question was about the drivers potential reaction in reference to the passengers actions. Nice try Mach, but no, I'm not playing this game. |
Actually is not a nice try, I just do not want to assume your position when it appears you are defending the situation. I can clearly state that I absolutely believe that this incident did not require lethal force as my position on the subject is pretty clear. As has been stated multiple times, did those actions require lethal force, you either believe it does or you do not, there really isn't any gray area here.
Just reading multiple accounts from actual police officers, a good deal of them say the Ice officer did not follow protocol for the situation. There are reason why those protocols are put in place because of the chance of needless deaths. Just the officer pulling out his gun for an incident that did not require it escalated it to 100. Not sure if you have ever had someone pull a gun out on you but not everyone act the same in those situations but as we see in America that is the standard practice for some officers. When face with any situation, they pull out their gun to enforce compliance.
While you may believe that my statement means I condemn you or seek to condemn you because you believe lethal force was required that isn't the case. My position is that instead of accepting that lethal force was used that we always seek for better training and protocols that would make sure lethal force isn't needed for situations like this where there definitely isn't any indication that the situation require killing someone. In America it seems the mindset is that every situation with the police is ok if they kill someone but its also why we have standard protocols which should be followed so that situations of this type do not happen.
2013 report on ICE shows Ross was likely used to the tactic of creating justification for the use of deadly force.
Have you ever heard of a report of Customs and Border Patrol agents using a deliberate tactic, intentionally putting themselves in the path of a vehicle and thereby creating justification for the use of deadly force against the driver? Well, that was a report conducted in the second term of the Obama administration in 2013.
"Jonathan Ross was a CBP at the southern border during that time - from 2007-2015. He would know this tactic."
The feeling of impunity kept this behavior going regardless. Without accountability these masked thugs will keep on going creating these situations over and over. ICE needs to be disbanded or reformed. Another report isn't going to fix this.


https://abcnews.go.com/world-news-tonight-with-david-muirT/video/case-2-suspects-charged-chicago-immigration-crackdown-dismissed-127733547
So it seems like we have another case where ICE agents put themselves in harms way to justify using lethal force. Same situation here where they claimed MS. Martinez as a domestic terrorist as we have seen with MS Good. Also, it appears the Ice agents intent were to kill MS Martinez as well shooting her 5 times but of course were unsuccessful in this case.
So the lunatic fascist in the White House has brought my home country (Denmark) to the greatest geopolitical crisis it has been in since his German predecessor decided to invade us on April 9th, 1940.
Trump has repeatedly threatened with military force to take over Greenland (now a territory under the Kingdom of Denmark).
These are not just words, as he is also asking army chiefs to draft a plan for the military take-over, https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15452323/Donald-Trump-orders-army-chiefs-plan-invade-Greenland-President.html
The reasoning for taking over Greenland is all based on endless lies and misformation from the Trump-regime. To list a few:
LIE #1: "The US needs Greenland from the point of National Security."
The Truth: According to a still active agreement from 1951, the US has full leeway to place whatever military personal and equipment on Greenland that it desires for the purpose of defending against NATO's enemies. It doesn't even have to ask permission, it only has to inform Denmark + Greenland. Still under Trump (and any other US president post cold war) the US has not prioritized beefing up the presence on Greenland, but has actually abandoned most bases and withdrawn 95 % of the personal.
LIE #2: "Denmark is free-loading and not contributing it's share to NATO"
The Truth: Denmark has met the requested target of 2 % of GDP for military budget by 2024, and is on track to expand it to the 5 % required by 2035.
LIE #3: "Denmark is not a good ally"
The Truth: Denmark has supported the US in every single major military conflict the US has been involved with in the 21st century, including being one of the countries loosing most soldiers in the Afghanistan and Iraq wars.
Lie #4: "Russian and Chinese ships are all over the area, we have to take it before they do"
The Truth: There is zero evidence that there is a significant presence of Chinese or Russian ships around Greenland. There is no threat of these countries invading Greenland and thereby starting a war with NATO.
Misinformation #1: "Denmark and Greenland cannot defend Greenland, Denmark has send one dog sledge!"
The Truth: "It is true that Denmark and Greenland cannot defend Greenland alone, but neither should they, the aforementioned 1951 agreement states that the military defense of Greenland is US' task, while other political tasks are Denmark's responsibility. Still, upon request from Trump in 2019, Denmark has rapidly increased it's military spending on Greenland, investing billions of dollars in it, and organizing huge NATO training missions on the island.
Misinformation #2: "Greenland doesn't even want to be a part of Denmark"
The Truth: Greenland has been working towards getting independence for a long time, and they have gotten practically independence on everything except matters related to foreign politics and defense. They are also still depending on around 0.5-1 billion US dollars (40 % of their total budget) in support from the danish government each year. According to the agreement with Denmark, Greenland is free to declare itself independent from Denmark at any point, but they have not done so yet. While most Greenlanders dream of future full independence from Denmark, the route and speed of getting there is not agreed upon among the people. Also, the people of Greenland strongly prefers being part of Denmark to being part of the US. Only 6 % of the population thinks it would be a good idea to become part of the US.
Misinformation #3: "Denmark is not allowing Greenland to use it's natural resources. The US should instead have access to the resources"
The Truth: Okay, so another country which should have its resources stolen by the US? Yes and no, Denmark and Greenland are open to a mineral agreement with the US, but of course such an agreement should benefit Greenland too. Greenland has not been drilling for oil yet for ecological reasons.
Lie #5: "Nobody would fight against the US over Greenland"
The Truth: Several voices within the danish government and central administration have said, there will be WAR if the US decides to militarily acquire Greenland. Denmark cannot defend Greenland against the US, but it will not allow the Trump administration to annex danish territory for free. Danish soldiers WILL shoot at american soldiers. Both Sweden and France have offered to put military on Greenland, so potentially a conflict can escalate to a fight between the US and the rest of NATO.
All in all, to be 100 % clear - Trump wants Greenland, not for National security reason, not even for access to resources, but because his ego demands that he expands US territory.
He said so himself in a recent interview:
"Ownership is very important."
"Because that's what I feel is psychologically needed for success."
https://www.rte.ie/news/analysis-and-comment/2026/0109/1552383-greenland-trump-analysis/
The children of Greenland can now not sleep at night, because they fear what will happen to their country 😡
F*** ICE and f***the current administration for enabling this.
In other bizarre developments, I can't make much sense of what's happening in Iran atm.
Trump says Iran wants to negotiate as the death toll in protests rises to at least 572
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/trump-says-iran-wants-to-negotiate-as-the-death-toll-in-protests-rises-to-at-least-572
U.S. President Donald Trump said Iran wants to negotiate with Washington after his threat to strike the Islamic Republic over its crackdown on protesters, a move coming as activists said Monday that the death toll in nationwide demonstrations rose to at least 572.
Trump acknowledges proposal for talks
Trump and his national security team have been weighing a range of potential responses against Iran, including cyberattacks and direct strikes by the U.S. or Israel, according to two people familiar with internal White House discussions who weren't authorized to comment publicly and spoke on condition of anonymity.
"The military is looking at it, and we're looking at some very strong options," Trump told reporters on Air Force One on Sunday night. Asked about Iran's threats of retaliation, he said: "If they do that, we will hit them at levels that they've never been hit before."
Trump said that his administration was in talks to set up a meeting with Tehran, but cautioned that he may have to act first as reports of the death toll in Iran mount and the government continues to arrest protesters.
"I think they're tired of being beat up by the United States," Trump said. "Iran wants to negotiate."
Iran, through the country's parliamentary speaker, warned Sunday that the U.S. military and Israel would be "legitimate targets" if Washington uses force to protect demonstrators.
Now first of all, what force would Trump use other than bombing the country. How does that protect protesters...
Are these protests 'encouraged' from outside the country to manufacture consent for another war against Iran?
And what's with the calls to reinstall the shaw, the Pahlavi Dynasty.
That's in Montreal Canada.
The CIA and MI6 overthrew the democratically elected government in Iran in 1953 to install the shaw to protect British oil interests. Now we have outside demonstrations to do the same? It's literally the son of the installed 'king' from 1953 'people' are now chanting to take over Iran...
The son of Iran’s last shah is rallying protesters. But do Iranians really want another king?
https://www.cnn.com/2026/01/09/middleeast/analysis-does-iran-want-shah-son-pahlavi-latam-intl
Reza Pahlavi was only 16 years old when Iran’s 1979 revolution toppled his father’s 40-year rule. The eldest son of Shah Mohammad Reza Pahlavi, he was the first in the line to inherit the oil-rich thousand-year-old empire.
Now at the age of 65, nearly half a century after the unravelling of his birthright, his wait may finally be coming to an end.
What is going on, why are people protesting to install another dictator. Every day the world seems to go more insane.
Motives for the US and Israel's involvement are clear
“Reza Pahlavi has indubitably increased his clout and has turned himself into a frontrunner in Iranian opposition politics,” said Arash Azizi, an academic and author of the book “What Iranians Want.”
“But he also suffers from many problems. He is a divisive figure and not a unifying one.”
A divided Iran is the goal, turning Iran into another Yemen, Lebanon, Syria.
History repeating. And of course the media only reports on the outsiders, no insights to what Iranians inside Iran actually want. All we know is that the protests started because of the economic sanctions crippling the country.
Plus this
https://www.xe.com/en-ca/currencyconverter/convert/?Amount=1&From=USD&To=IRR
Jan 8 the exchange rate went from 42K IRR per $1 to almost 1 million IRR per $1.
https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/new-updates/iran-protests-1-equals-1400000-iranian-rial-and-42-percent-inflation-why-has-the-irans-currency-plunged-to-a-record-low-against-us-dollar/articleshow/126429482.cms?from=mdr
Everything points to regime change from outside. It's just a waiting game now until Trump does something stupid again to get the news cycle off Renee Good. Is it a coincidence the Rial suddenly collapsed against the dollar 2 days after the murder of Renee Good? All these outside protests suddenly springing up, while the economic protests have been going on since December.
Iran’s inflation rate in December reached 42.2%, with food prices rising 72% compared to the previous year. The collapsed currency, high inflation and political conditions prompted shopkeepers to hit the streets in capital Tehran in late December to vent their frustration at a government they accuse of mismanaging the economy. The unrest spread into a broader protest movement involving students, workers and other groups calling not just for an improvement in living standards but an end to the Islamic republic system led by Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei.
The currency collapsed in Januari after the protests started...
I would love for Iran to get rid of Khamenei, but all I'm seeing is US and Israel trying to start a civil war in Iran since bombing the country last year didn't work for their purposes. How many more people have to die...
Trump regime is doubling down on 'self-defense' claim
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