Vance vs the governor of Minnesota

JD Vance speaks after ICE shooting

U.S. Vice President JD Vance tells the media that there are ‘way too many illegal aliens’ and that ICE officers need more support after the recent Minneapolis shooting.

Officials are pushing ‘false narratives’ on the shooting victim | Minnesota governor

Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz says officials in power have already passed judgment on the shooting investigation and determined the woman’s character.

ICE Agent Fatally Shoots Minneapolis Mother, Renee Good

We speak with two people who responded to the fatal shooting of Renee Nicole Good, a 37-year-old mother of three, by an ICE agent in Minneapolis Wednesday. Trump administration officials claim the agent acted in self-defense, but local officials, including Minnesota Governor Tim Walz and Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Frey, reject that claim.

Woman killed by ICE agent in Minneapolis was a mother of 3, poet and new to the city

The woman shot and killed by a U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement officer in Minneapolis on Wednesday was Renee Nicole Macklin Good, a 37-year-old mother of three who had recently moved to Minnesota.

‘Can I check a pulse?’: Video shows ICE preventing doctor from tending to Minneapolis shooting victim

https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/5679332-video-ice-minneapolis-shooting-renee-nicole-good/

Minneapolis residents pleaded with federal agents for aid to be rendered to the woman shot by a U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agent as she sat slumped in her vehicle after being shot by an officer Wednesday, new video shows.

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Trump administration officials painted Macklin Good as a domestic terrorist who had attempted to ram federal agents with her car. 

“The woman screaming was, obviously, a professional agitator, and the woman driving the car was very disorderly, obstructing and resisting, who then violently, willfully, and viciously ran over the ICE Officer, who seems to have shot her in self defense,” Trump wrote in a Truth Social post.  

The Department of Homeland Security called Macklin Good a domestic terrorist, Nexstar’s The Hill reports, as DHS Secretary Kristi Noem accused Macklin Good of using the vehicle as a weapon.

“An officer of ours acted quickly and defensively shot to protect himself and the people around him and my understanding is that she was hit and is deceased,” Noem said Wednesday during a press conference.

Trump and other federal officials said Macklin Good ran over the ICE officer, though critics have largely refuted that claim. 

You are killed by armed masked men and you are blamed as a terrotist yourself.

They have been doing it to black people for ages, they are doing it to foreign people for months and how they are reaching you, the white local citizens.

This will really never get old:

"First they came for the Communists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Communist

Then they came for the Socialists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Socialist

Then they came for the trade unionists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a trade unionist

Then they came for the Jews
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Jew

Then they came for me
And there was no one left
To speak out for me"

A MAGA version:

First they came for the Palestinians
And I defended them
because they are all terrorists

Then they came for the protesters 
And I defended them
because they disrupt my daily routine

Then they came for the poor
And I defended them
because they only have themselves to blame

Then they came for the immigrants
And I defended them
because they steal all our jobs

Then they came for other countries resources
And I defended them
because the US is entitled to all Earth's resources

Then they came for me
And I defended them
because Billionaires got to eat too

There are certain posts here that sicken me.

Maybe it's just my non-Americanness, but here every single time a police uses their gun (and I think, although don't quote me on this, that includes even holding it in their hands without actually shooting), it gets investigated. In the US, I don't know whether police gun usage is investigated, but I sure hear about a lot of cases where there are no real consequences despite likely abuses of power (and this case isn't even about the police...). I don't get how you Americans can think of gun usage as the norm and something that should be defended by default instead of thoroughly investigated whenever it happens. It's extreme use of power every time, and it should be treated accordingly.

From what I've seen it looks like even the first shot was after he was to the side of the car. Then he shot too more times because who the fuck knows. There's no way that we should be shooting to kill anyone who we think is driving erratically or who doesn't get out of their car when told to. She should have gotten out of the car because you never know when a police officer will misuse their firearm, but that doesn't make what the police did correct. 

Can you show me any instance of an officer letting someone go from a scene like this and then getting blamed for them hitting a bystander? I don't think shooting people because they could hit a bystander is as standard as you are stating. 

A European simping for this incompetent administration is absolutely fucking wild.

Edit: And Canadians simping for this administration. Jesus H. Christ. 

I personally wouldn't try and drive away. The odds a bunch of people with guns surrounding your vehicle shoot, be it law enforcement, criminals, or just armed citizens, is too high to attempt to flee. Whether their bullets hit you, or cause your vehicle to break down, or they chase you down, or you by chance get away, who knows, but who's going to risk that if you're innocent?

I'm quite curious as to what details the investigation will bring to light in terms of what exactly happened here.

Trump and Vance are already altering the story, NY times has different camera angles.
The 'officer' was not in the path of the vehicle when he fired.



She backed up first, let another car pass then wanted to drive off herself when the goons came out yelling at her.

It's murder in broad daylight. Nothing justifies shooting 3 rounds into the car. She was never behaving in any threatening manner.

People all react differently, especially when angry men come out threatening, shouting at you. Plus their whole purpose was to clear the road, so her mindset likely was she had to leave. I would probably be thinking, Ok Ok I'm going, as well.

Claiming self-defense is pure nonsense. 



I wouldn't trust any details of any FBI investigation, I'll use my own eyes.

Minnesota officials forced out of ICE shooting investigation as public trust erodes

Alex Tabet, MS NOW Reporter on the ground in Minneapolis and Michael Feinberg, Former Assistant Special Agent In Charge at the FBI joins Nicolle Wallace on Deadline White House in the aftermath of the shooting death of a U.S. citizen by ICE, with the news that federal investigators and law enforcement have chosen to box out state and local law enforcement from conducting a fair investigation into an incident that has caused outrage across the country. 


This is all the exact same playbook as what happens daily in the Westbank. Claim self-defense, blame the victim, claim she's a terrorist attempting to ram them, open a mock investigation and wait for the next thing to take it out of the news cycle.