Hopefully if she does get out one of those ol Republican assassins have a go at her, Lol.

Even if Maxwell said "Trump is innocent but here is a list of a few Democrats and rich folk" to distract peoples attention away from Trump, even if that worked as a distraction, I don't think it would work for most people, a pardon for a known child sex trafficker is sick from the start, but it would also make it extremely obvious that they cut a deal and Maxwell lied to protect Trump to get what she wanted.

He could give the pardon at the end of his term and keep it secret until then, I suppose he could fuck off into the sunset, but that would likely cripple the Republican Party with independent voters come next election. But Trump likely won't give a fuck unless one of his kids end up running for Presidency, Lol.

It's already blindingly obvious that Trump's defence attorney is trying to cut a deal with Maxwell to clear Trump's name, we can't really trust anything that comes out of her mouth now, so I'm not sure what play Trump is going to do, maybe he just goes with it and pardons her, or gives her some other deal for "cooperating to expose Democrats" or some shit.

Easy, because the question is a clear sign of reaching.  Basically you are trying to question Pi motives on a subject that is about when he posted about Epstein files in this thread but who cares if he posted about it before or not.

We all are now questioning this administration reasons for not releasing the files that they put front and center to their campaign, talking about it none stop on national TV and social media, then out of the blue says there isn't anything there, nothing to release and its all fabricated by the previous administration. You have the President who made such a big deal talking about and using this suppose list to smear a previous president from his own mouth but now he wants you to shut up and move on from those very files after he gain his political advantage for using it.

You are trying to question someone motives for being very interested in the about face but you are not willing to address the about face so you turn the conversation away from those issues.  Its a classic tactic.

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This is another big reason why I haven't posted so much about it - other people are already saying what I would say. Unless I feel like I have something meaningful to add, or if I were to think that saying something a different way might be a good contribution, I'm not going to post anything. It takes a lot of time and energy to read up on these topics and write a post. 

I don't know in the first place what all kinds of files that were found. It would be nice if there were lots of convenient files that would put people away, but that could also just be hopeful wishing and I don't really care for that kind of wishing. 

And yeah, it feels like a lot of people are imagining some kind of convenient excel sheet myPedoFriendsWithBlackmail.xlsx and everything will be simple, and justice will be done. And that's certainly not the reality. Even if there was something somewhere, discovery and investigations take a long time. This wouldn't get wrapped up in a few weekends - these things can often take years. 

I'm not optimistic enough to think that 

a - there are enough meaningful files that were collected that will put people in jail

b - that the current Department of Justice would in good faith, at minimum investigate the people that did come out.

c - enough justice would be served even in the best of circumstance.

Even if I had the utmost faith in the integrity and competency of the administration, I still am not optimistic enough to believe that enough would happen. 
And I don't have utmost faith in the administration. This is a wildly incompetent and corrupt administration - I would have taken the Bush administration 10x over this one. 

Personally, I feel the need to release the "Epstein files" is a bit more complicated than some people are making it out to be.

If the files actually incriminate people and include a "client list", first and foremost, these people should be charged. Typically, evidence involved in a criminal investigation isn't and shouldn't be released before trial. 

Further, if there is evidence which doesn't look great but doesn't directly implicate anyone in a crime (like the flight logs), there are significant ethical concerns when it comes to tying potentially innocent people to incredibly severe investigations.

And if there is nothing of value in the files, I'd probably lean towards releasing them but in effect it wouldn't really matter, because the conspiracy heads would just say they're holding the valuable stuff back. 

But this all gets complicated by people in Trump's orbit stirring the pot of conspiracy theories. He and his ilk have made so much noise, throwing accusations and making denials, but now they are saying there is nothing there? That about-face demands proof. It amplifies the valid public interest in those files. If Trump World had said nothing about it and let it fall into the past, this pressure wouldn't exist, but they used the conspiracies every step of the way until they got too close and then tried to cast them aside. Now, the only way out it to release the files. 

It's not gaslighting and people have turned a traumatic issue of modern life into another loaded word to be thrown around on a politics forum.  As long as you aren't acting like a narcissist and getting that rage over someone saying something you won't like then there really isn't a problem as far as forum conduct goes.  

Gaslighting is a form of psychological abuse when the offender messes with victims by changing stuff around on them and saying “it’s always been like that” until they doubt their own perception of reality.

And here we have someone simultaneously casting oneself as a victim and yet at the same time trivializing the behavior.  

Whatever it is, it's an attempt to move away from criticising Trump and instead turn things around on the other person, coming from a guy who is complaining about others for apparently not acknowledging MAGA fans who are criticising Trump (even though we have) it's a funny irony that he's trying to push back on those criticising Trump and instead criticise them.

"This is a mess that Trump and his team created, they brought it back into the spotlight, they said they had the files, they heavily implied they would release them, now they're backtracking completely, saying the files don't exist and refusing to release them, these are the actions of a guilty man, now this mans defence attorney is having secret meetings with a known child trafficker who is trying to get a plea deal."

"YEAH?! WELL WHERE WERE YOUR CONCERNS ON JUNE 9TH 2021?! WHAT DID YOU SAY 3 YEARS AGO?!"

🙄🙄🙄

It's a fair stance to take that the files probably don't have anything important in them, though Trump's actions lead me to believe they do, before this I was more 50/50 but he has been acting mad guilty and it now makes me think there's a lot of very incriminating files out there on a lot of people. Like you said though, this has entirely been an issue of Trump and his teams creation so now the only solution is to release the files.

Though it's a fair point that releasing the files could compromise criminal investigations and evidence isn't released before a trial, but they haven't used that argument once, Lol. So I'm not sure how true that is for these particular files, it makes me think that there's probably a few people in there if incriminated that they will not do anything about at all and will instead shove it under the rug, like Prince Andrew, do I think the FBI/DOJ will ever bring criminal charges against him even if they have hard evidence that he was a pedo too? Fuck no.

If there's people like Prince Andrew in there, then there's probably going to be a few people who will never have charges brought against them even if guilty. So I'm fine with releasing the files in their full capacity but with victim names redacted, let people disseminate the information in its fullest, being friends with Epstein isn't evidence of guilt, but other things might be. Lets face it, people are already making their assumptions anyway with the partial information we already have.