Rats fleeing a sinking ship.
To the privileged, equality feels like oppression.
Rats fleeing a sinking ship.
To the privileged, equality feels like oppression.
| Machiavellian said: Will Powell crumbling be the start of the wall of lies falling down and everyone who is looking to make a deal rush in to get one before its too late. |
Could be now that Cheesebro is flipping, too.

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China rose in power because of China. Stop trying to dimmish their single minded pursuit of global domination just like the US had that single minded pursuit before. No, America was never going to reign in China because China figured out a long time ago that dependance on America is a fallacy. They have become a global power because China is in everything not just the US. They are in every country exploiting every market and using their most valuable resource which is their people to make it happen. Cheap educated labor where you can send them all over the world to bring in valued resources to their country and government. Lol, this is why China succeeds while a lot of the west flounders because they are to close to sniffing their own butts.


Mark Meadows folded, yeah the flood gates are probably going to open up big time. Actually if you are folding in the federal case, you probably should hurry and fold in the GA state case as well.


The rise of China based on what?
If we look at GDP, it basically tripled under Bush, and then doubled again under Obama. It definitely wasn't due to left leaning politicians, it was happening regardless.
From what I understand a lot of China's growth is kind of manufactured. It was going to happen because of China's influences, not America's.
I think the big difference is that right wingers complain about China, while having absolutely no real solutions to fix any of it. And left leaning politicians try to make it less of a deal, because they probably don't have any real solutions in this particular case either.
| the-pi-guy said: The rise of China based on what? If we look at GDP, it basically tripled under Bush, and then doubled again under Obama. It definitely wasn't due to left leaning politicians, it was happening regardless. From what I understand a lot of China's growth is kind of manufactured. It was going to happen because of China's influences, not America's. I think the big difference is that right wingers complain about China, while having absolutely no real solutions to fix any of it. And left leaning politicians try to make it less of a deal, because they probably don't have any real solutions in this particular case either. |
China's growth mostly comes from cheap labor attracting international companies in the nineties and noughties (and getting their hand on the tech of those companies). Since the financial crisis however Chinese labor has become too expensive compared to most southeast Asian countries, so foreign companies are slowly leaving China, leaving production more and more only to state-owned companies where pay is often below minimum wage and work on a 996 schedule. To continue boost GDP numbers, China has then embarked in massive construction projects like the three gorges dam, the high-speed rail network and stamping entire new cities of the ground, of which we see the consequences now.
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| the-pi-guy said: The rise of China based on what? If we look at GDP, it basically tripled under Bush, and then doubled again under Obama. It definitely wasn't due to left leaning politicians, it was happening regardless. From what I understand a lot of China's growth is kind of manufactured. It was going to happen because of China's influences, not America's. I think the big difference is that right wingers complain about China, while having absolutely no real solutions to fix any of it. And left leaning politicians try to make it less of a deal, because they probably don't have any real solutions in this particular case either. |
If you ask me there is no solution for China because China has figured out a really basic concept about western society. Give them cheap goods, sell below cost enough to drive out competition and then corner the market. Its actually a very capitalist approach and as we have seen with Trumps tariffs, its very resilient against such tactics. The reason why Trump failed is not because the ideal was flawed which is hit China with Tarriffs, it was the fact that he thought the US alone could reign in China and did not want to cooperate with other western counties. He wanted all the credit which short sighted his attempt and failed. If he had allied with all the western countries and they all hit China with big tarriffs against China tactics, this would have been a much bigger impact on China economy and they would have needed to come to the table and make huge concessions. At least that is how I view the problem and solution to China in the marketplace today.


Bofferbrauer2 said:
China's growth mostly comes from cheap labor attracting international companies in the nineties and noughties (and getting their hand on the tech of those companies). Since the financial crisis however Chinese labor has become too expensive compared to most southeast Asian countries, so foreign companies are slowly leaving China, leaving production more and more only to state-owned companies where pay is often below minimum wage and work on a 996 schedule. To continue boost GDP numbers, China has then embarked in massive construction projects like the three gorges dam, the high-speed rail network and stamping entire new cities of the ground, of which we see the consequences now. |
I would also say that China faces the same problem as India and of course what the US already gone through. Once your society gets to a certain level, low wages for the work they do becomes an issue. Being able to sustain a highly educated society with lower wages become more and more of an issue as these people start to demand higher wages. As you stated, what then happens is those companies that relied on those workforce start to look at other countries that can supple the same type of low cost workers who can be trained to do the job at a lower cost. Now Mexico, Africa and other such places start to look more attractive.