It's also underestimating the millions of CoD and Fortnite players who have spent literally hundreds now on continued cross-platform entries and won't abandon all of that and their friends to switch to another console at this stage.

Digital purchasing is way bigger on Xbox/PlayStation than it is Nintendo as well and Nintendo doesn't even have cross-purchasing history between Wii U/Switch to begin with so that fanbase has zero choice anyway, no cross-play/backwards compatibility like Xbox/PlayStation have heavily invested in.

Console users DO have a choice. If you ask a CoD user if he wants to start all over after spending hundreds or carry his purchases over, they're more likely going to want to carry their purchases over. They'll carry that over to the next platform, with their entire history, they have that choice.

Nintendo users more often than not, aren't given a choice to begin with, Lol.

That's the issue. The "fanbase" of the Wii U is/was 13.5 million, the Switch is way over 120 million. Saying "people won't change now" is kind of a silly excuse to me. If the console has great killer apps, it will sell. That was always the rule. Not releasing significant games over a year and then "yeah we wouldn't sell much anyway" is a weird conclusion. Like when EA said "our data showed people are more playing Madden and the Sims on PS and Xbox rather than the Switch" (cause they aren't on the Switch)

just because you're stuck with urs, don't tell us what to do ducky

I think you're misinterpreting me because I never said that, Lol. Of course a console will sell if it has great 1st parties. That isn't my point nor Phil's, I'm not and he is not saying it won't increase sales, we're saying they won't beat PlayStation.

Which I think is true. PlayStation is on lock for 100m+ as the floor and their lowest console was 85m, Xbox's best ever was 87m and it needed Kinect to give it a major end of life boost and multiple PlayStation screwups.

PlayStation with no screwups? Will beat Xbox, easy, even if Xbox releases a bunch of awesome titles, because so will Sony and they're already riding high off the incredible userbase they have built up, a large userbase who will be entrenched deeply into the system, the spending habits of gamers on Xbox/PlayStation will be different to those on Switch, I.E. As I mentioned, the millions of CoD/Fortnite fans who won't want to lose their stuff.

My prediction which I posted earlier is on the basis of everything being released, at minimum 8/10 for each one, and whatever else they have, I still think Xbox will be around 60-70m and PlayStation will be around 110m+ Taking away a few million as well to account for the fact that you don't need an Xbox if you have a good PC.

1st party is one part of why a console sells, a key part, but there are other factors too, Wii U could have had all the exclusives in the world, it did have a few great ones, but nobody wanted the Wii U itself. 3rd parties push Xbox/PlayStation way more than they do Nintendo consoles too, Xbox/PlayStation are far more heavily multiplayer orientated which leads into people not abandoning the console where their friends are at, Switch appeals to the huge handheld market, etc. etc.

Because it's one of the GOATs. Saved you all a click. 

Jeez.

10,000 before not E3?

Need another big L and or Sony hat. Hopefully we get both. 

I disagree.  If you bought a PS4, why would you not get a Xbox over the PS5.  The same games you were invested in that are exclusive have come out or is coming out on the PS5.  Not only that but those games are all hitting a damn good amount above weight as I like to say meaning they are reviewing well and also looking great.  People keep using the switch, but Nintendo already sold a crap ton of software and hardware but the real difference is the space Nintendo find themselves in.  Since the Switch is the only mobile console and Nintendo still have their first party games you can only get on their system not to mention the price is not at the same level as Sony and MS console, Nintendo sits at a perfect position.  For the most part, Nintendo has pretty much sat between MS and Sony as the secondary console between the 2.  Meaning most gamers will have a PS and Nintendo console or an Xbox and Nintendo console but not really a PS and Xbox console because they pretty much share the same games. 

Most gamers do not understand that these large corporations have people that analyze the market constantly and also monitor consumers habits. The main thing is that you believe Phil is wrong only because the amount of data that is available to you is limited.  Phil was right that the Xbox one set them back big time and basically destroyed the momentum the 360 had coming into that generation.  I remember the excitement people had concerning the Xbox one before release but then it all blew up with concentration on things other than gaming.  Then MS made the mistake of bundling Kinect with the Xbox one with a 500 bones price tag with lower specs than the 100 dollar PS4.  It crippled the whole generation for them and it took just about everything to claw back any decent market after that screw up.  

Wii U didn’t even break 14m and still has 5 games that broke 5m in sales (1 of which was just under 9m) … people saying MS can pull a Nintendo, no they can’t cuz they simply don’t have anything that gets sales like Nintendo’s IP’ also what I will say is when Phil steps down I hope some of the people complaining put their resumes in but I’m not sure forum expert has much chance ;)