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How many units will the XBSX sell lifetime

Under 60M 6 12.50%
 
60-70M 8 16.67%
 
70-75M 4 8.33%
 
75-80M 10 20.83%
 
80-85M 7 14.58%
 
85-90M 4 8.33%
 
90-100M 4 8.33%
 
100M+ 5 10.42%
 
Total:48
yo33331 said:
smroadkill15 said:

There is a supply constraint issue now the 360 didn't have to worry about. Is that fair? What if there was only one Xbox model without the supply constraint issue? Sales would still be higher than the 360. 

The 360 gen had series S alternative model as well. The core one (named arcade later on). At launch there were to models, the pro - 399$ and the core one - 299$. 2007 they released the elite one - 499$. So It is the same. The Elite one counts as the X one - 499$ and the core/arcade counts as the S now - 299$. It's the same.

However now we have shortages, and back then there were no shortages. And even with that XBSX makes way more sales for now than the 360.

If we have to remove the sales of the S model from the graph then we should remove the sales of the 299$ core model of 360 too.

Exactly. The 360 had its own advantages and visa-versa. Saying something is unfair is a strange way to discredit another systems success. 



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I said 70-74 million, based on current marketshare trends against PlayStation. I think they need to show greater marketshare improvement over the holidays and 2023 if I were going to adjust that up.



Chicho said:

Voted 75-80. I'm a bit surpriced that one of the most popular options is less than 60. It is doing is doing a lot better than the Xbox one and that did 50 millions. Microsoft says it is seeing growth in Asia. I just don't see it doing less than 60.

It did 50 million after being sold bundled with cereals and paper towels + having the game pass and the covid lockdown, I mean it spent most of its lifetime being the « meh, why not » console.

Now the Series X is sold for more, and have good arguments, but the PS5 isn’t failing to reach the general audience for now, so it doesn’t seem to be having the same sale logic as the Xbox 360



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SKMBlake said:
Chicho said:

Voted 75-80. I'm a bit surpriced that one of the most popular options is less than 60. It is doing is doing a lot better than the Xbox one and that did 50 millions. Microsoft says it is seeing growth in Asia. I just don't see it doing less than 60.

It did 50 million after being sold bundled with cereals and paper towels + having the game pass and the covid lockdown, I mean it spent most of its lifetime being the « meh, why not » console.

Now the Series X is sold for more, and have good arguments, but the PS5 isn’t failing to reach the general audience for now, so it doesn’t seem to be having the same sale logic as the Xbox 360

Many of the issues the Xbone had early on, the Series X|S avoided. There is no argument to be made when the system is clearly outperforming the Xbone and that's with shortages. Why it would sell about the same as the xbone makes zero sense. Series X software will also be much stronger once this gen is all said and done and keep the system much more relevant. The PS5 is very popular, but Xbox is keeping pacing. It's nowhere near as lop sided as last gen. 



In the other poll a said it would be way under the x1 lifetime. Now I'm thinking it will be around the x1.

One MS is dead set on abandoning hardware it seems. Also the games they are making can be run on crappy PC hardware and PC gamepass has more games. so there's very little incentive to own the box.

second the Xbox is being helped by the disastrous state of the PC component prices. Next month we will have the new gpus announced and rumors are they will be pricey and for Nvidia massive power hogs. I do see a lot of PC gamers going back to consoles until things cool down.

Third the games output has never been worse for the brand. It doesn't make sense that a company with so much money and so many bought studios has had 2 out the 3 years this Gen is out with zero big games. They buy studios and they seem to go into decay immediately and join the other Xbox studios. Even if they buy Activision I don't see much improvement cuz it's not the number of studios is management that's the problem. But out of sheer numbers it has to be better than the x1 Gen.



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85M.



smroadkill15 said:
SKMBlake said:

It did 50 million after being sold bundled with cereals and paper towels + having the game pass and the covid lockdown, I mean it spent most of its lifetime being the « meh, why not » console.

Now the Series X is sold for more, and have good arguments, but the PS5 isn’t failing to reach the general audience for now, so it doesn’t seem to be having the same sale logic as the Xbox 360

Many of the issues the Xbone had early on, the Series X|S avoided. There is no argument to be made when the system is clearly outperforming the Xbone and that's with shortages. Why it would sell about the same as the xbone makes zero sense. Series X software will also be much stronger once this gen is all said and done and keep the system much more relevant. The PS5 is very popular, but Xbox is keeping pacing. It's nowhere near as lop sided as last gen. 

Let’s see the games first before betting on how strong the library will be.



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The real question is... what if the original Series S is no longer mandated in the middle of the generation? What if developers can choose to skip the console and only develop for higher grade Xbox consoles (Series X and whatever it is replacing the S). Wouldn't that destroy the concept of "generations" as we know it with respect to Microsoft/Xbox? Or would that be another GameBoy Color sort of situation where they will be counted as one system even though they're clearly not, because several late games will not be supported by the S in favor of the X and the S successor.

I mean the name "Series" itself is an implication that Microsoft might follow a "minimum requirement" model of sorts, making it a hybrid between traditional consoles and PC. Very high chance this is what they will do if Series S's small RAM proves problematic for the more ambitious future games.

This is one of the many reasons why Xbox is unpredictable to me. People have different ideas as to what constitutes a generation.

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Kyuu said:

The real question is... what if the original Series S is no longer mandated in the middle of the generation? What if developers can choose to skip the console and only develop for higher grade Xbox consoles (Series X and whatever it is replacing the S). Wouldn't that destroy the concept of "generations" as we know it with respect to Microsoft/Xbox? Or would that be another GameBoy Color sort of situation where they will be counted as one system even though they're clearly not, because several late games will not be supported by the S in favor of the X and the S successor.

I mean the name "Series" itself is an implication that Microsoft might follow a "minimum requirement" model of sorts, making it a hybrid between traditional consoles and PC. Very high chance this is what they will do if Series S's small RAM proves problematic for the more ambitious future games.

This is one of the many reasons why Xbox is unpredictable to me. People have different ideas as to what constitutes a generation.

I agree.

And maybe in future there won't be new model that replace the Series S, but instead the Series X will replace the Series S as the low budget model and there will be new more powerful up to date model which comes into the Series X place.



yo33331 said:
Kyuu said:

The real question is... what if the original Series S is no longer mandated in the middle of the generation? What if developers can choose to skip the console and only develop for higher grade Xbox consoles (Series X and whatever it is replacing the S). Wouldn't that destroy the concept of "generations" as we know it with respect to Microsoft/Xbox? Or would that be another GameBoy Color sort of situation where they will be counted as one system even though they're clearly not, because several late games will not be supported by the S in favor of the X and the S successor.

I mean the name "Series" itself is an implication that Microsoft might follow a "minimum requirement" model of sorts, making it a hybrid between traditional consoles and PC. Very high chance this is what they will do if Series S's small RAM proves problematic for the more ambitious future games.

This is one of the many reasons why Xbox is unpredictable to me. People have different ideas as to what constitutes a generation.

I agree.

And maybe in future there won't be new model that replace the Series S, but instead the Series X will replace the Series S as the low budget model and there will be new more powerful up to date model which comes into the Series X place.

They can release as many consoles as they want. But if they drop support to soon for any fans won't be happy. 



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