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curl-6 on 05 September 2022
tbone51 said:
curl-6 said:

There's definitely room for more base and Lite owners to upgrade to an OLED, but I'm not sure Splatoon 3 is the kind of game to compel people to upgrade rather than just enjoy it on the system they already own.

I'm sure hardware will get a bump the week of Splatoon 3's release, but to the same extent as special edition hardware of the most desirable model? Not so sure. Thankfully we only need to wait 10 days to find out.

You vastly underestimate nsw userbase, I'll put 3ds comparison here for discussion sake...

25mil 3ds total!

3DS 10000k

3DSLL: 7000k

N3DS/N3DSLL: 6000k

2DS: 575k

2DSLL: 1200k

Each model is an upgrade, from 3ds>LL>N3ds/LL. The unique users from this is significantly lower than that of NSW. In case of lite, many upgraded fro, lite to OG.

With Oled, there is much bigger potential especially giving that nsw userbase could be over 15mil unique users and that leaves open OLED and other ,models (if new introduce) can sell a total of 10mil. Oh yeah and this is coming off of nsw/lite still selling 30k roughly a week. There is so much ,more room to growth its actually amazing 

Yeah but what does that have to do with how much hardware Splatoon 3 will move?



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tbone51 on 05 September 2022
curl-6 said:
tbone51 said:

You vastly underestimate nsw userbase, I'll put 3ds comparison here for discussion sake...

25mil 3ds total!

3DS 10000k

3DSLL: 7000k

N3DS/N3DSLL: 6000k

2DS: 575k

2DSLL: 1200k

Each model is an upgrade, from 3ds>LL>N3ds/LL. The unique users from this is significantly lower than that of NSW. In case of lite, many upgraded fro, lite to OG.

With Oled, there is much bigger potential especially giving that nsw userbase could be over 15mil unique users and that leaves open OLED and other ,models (if new introduce) can sell a total of 10mil. Oh yeah and this is coming off of nsw/lite still selling 30k roughly a week. There is so much ,more room to growth its actually amazing 

Yeah but what does that have to do with how much hardware Splatoon 3 will move?

Alot, due to the fact that there are many people that never upgraded, and for a new splatoon game that's likely to outsell its predecessor by possibly a million or more, it's a new sku that would complement it very well for the upgrade.

You were asking originally that the baseline (55k-60k this year) would increase with splat3, and the answer to that is yes. There is a reason why the oled model splat3 edition isn't just a one time release after all, it going to be the driving sku this year, hardly just a collector edition hardware 



curl-6 on 05 September 2022
tbone51 said:
curl-6 said:

Yeah but what does that have to do with how much hardware Splatoon 3 will move?

Alot, due to the fact that there are many people that never upgraded, and for a new splatoon game that's likely to outsell its predecessor by possibly a million or more, it's a new sku that would complement it very well for the upgrade.

You were asking originally that the baseline (55k-60k this year) would increase with splat3, and the answer to that is yes. There is a reason why the oled model splat3 edition isn't just a one time release after all, it going to be the driving sku this year, hardly just a collector edition hardware 

Again though, why would Splatoon 3 specifically push people to buy a new Switch? It's not like the game heavily focuses on things the OLED does better like visuals.

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tbone51 on 05 September 2022
curl-6 said:
tbone51 said:

Alot, due to the fact that there are many people that never upgraded, and for a new splatoon game that's likely to outsell its predecessor by possibly a million or more, it's a new sku that would complement it very well for the upgrade.

You were asking originally that the baseline (55k-60k this year) would increase with splat3, and the answer to that is yes. There is a reason why the oled model splat3 edition isn't just a one time release after all, it going to be the driving sku this year, hardly just a collector edition hardware 

Again though, why would Splatoon 3 specifically push people to buy a new Switch? It's not like the game heavily focuses on things the OLED does better like visuals.

Ok I see where your getting at, but also ask yourself the same question to the 2.3mil people who bought an oled model for Metroid/Pokemon Bdsp and PLA!

Here is another reason why people will upgrade to oled that owned splat3. What year did splat3 release? 2017. The first 3mil-4mil sold for splatoon2 are people who had bought a nsw in 2017/2018. These are people with systems that are 4-5years old. Do you think that not even 10% of them would upgrade to an oled that will be an invest for them for the next 2-3 years of splat3 support?

There is no direct or correct way to answer your question, but hypothetically and imo my thoughts on the matter at least showcase that splat3 will push alot of oled consoles. Hell you will see it with your own eyes after a month or 2 after splat3 releases. All you have to do is watch oled only numbers and compare. 



curl-6 on 05 September 2022
tbone51 said:
curl-6 said:

Again though, why would Splatoon 3 specifically push people to buy a new Switch? It's not like the game heavily focuses on things the OLED does better like visuals.

Ok I see where your getting at, but also ask yourself the same question to the 2.3mil people who bought an oled model for Metroid/Pokemon Bdsp and PLA!

Here is another reason why people will upgrade to oled that owned splat3. What year did splat3 release? 2017. The first 3mil-4mil sold for splatoon2 are people who had bought a nsw in 2017/2018. These are people with systems that are 4-5years old. Do you think that not even 10% of them would upgrade to an oled that will be an invest for them for the next 2-3 years of splat3 support?

There is no direct or correct way to answer your question, but hypothetically and imo my thoughts on the matter at least showcase that splat3 will push alot of oled consoles. Hell you will see it with your own eyes after a month or 2 after splat3 releases. All you have to do is watch oled only numbers and compare. 

We'll have to wait and see. I do believe there will be a boost, but how big it is will be interesting to watch. Thankfully we only need to wait 10 days to find out.



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IcaroRibeiro on 05 September 2022
tbone51 said:
curl-6 said:

Again though, why would Splatoon 3 specifically push people to buy a new Switch? It's not like the game heavily focuses on things the OLED does better like visuals.

Ok I see where your getting at, but also ask yourself the same question to the 2.3mil people who bought an oled model for Metroid/Pokemon Bdsp and PLA!

Here is another reason why people will upgrade to oled that owned splat3. What year did splat3 release? 2017. The first 3mil-4mil sold for splatoon2 are people who had bought a nsw in 2017/2018. These are people with systems that are 4-5years old. Do you think that not even 10% of them would upgrade to an oled that will be an invest for them for the next 2-3 years of splat3 support?

There is no direct or correct way to answer your question, but hypothetically and imo my thoughts on the matter at least showcase that splat3 will push alot of oled consoles. Hell you will see it with your own eyes after a month or 2 after splat3 releases. All you have to do is watch oled only numbers and compare. 

The problem is Oled offers only a better screen and more memory (which can be brought with SSD cards anyway). It does not offer a substantially more powerful hardware or any feature that standard model lacks

The big number of 3DS SKUs you are bringing were basically phased out once the newer SKU was released, others were versions without the useless 3D function and therefore less expensive. The reason to buy those models were significantly more appealing than just a better screen 

OLED as a revision is not such a big step forward in comparison with OG model

Your argument about OG model being a 2017 release and needing a replacement is better. Historically handhelds are more likely to be purchased twice because they are much less resistant and much more accident prone. Also battery life being deployed and joycons drifting can make playing games a nightmare, so another reason to buy a new console that seems to have at least more 2 years of support



tbone51 on 06 September 2022

For those questioning OLED currently and what itll be doing in the near future!

2nd Half Year (aligned)

W##: LITE --- OLED
W27: 13.8k -- 43.8k
W28: 24.6k -- 26.3k
W29: 17.4k -- 29.2k
W30: 16.4k -- 28.7k
W31: 20.1k -- 42.4k
W32: 33.8k -- 47.4k
W33: 28.4k -- 47.4k
W34: 21.0k -- 31.3k
W35: 24.0k -- 87.3k
W36: 31.7k --
W37: 30.5k --
W38: 32.2k --
W39: 28.4k --
W40: 24.9k --

Lifetime Aligned (47 weeks)

LITE: 2.478.806
Oled: 2.311.142

Difference: 167.664

Keep in mind Lite is in nsw 4th year and a much cheaper model, vs 6th year oled comparison 



Agente42 on 07 September 2022
Famitsu vs Media Create

2022 Aug 01 - Aug 28

Nintendo Switch Sports - 83.144 | 95.944
Mario Kart 8 Deluxe - 56.972 | 67.651
Kirby and the Forgotten Land - 45.637 | 60.534
Minecraft - 40.287 | 48.629
Xenoblade Chronicles 3 - 49.262 | 48.016
Ring Fit Adventure - 30.174 | 42.761
SD Gundam Battle Alliance - 38.634 | 39.836
Monster Hunter Rise + Sunbreak Set - 38.188 | 35.562
Animal Crossing: New Horizons - 20.159 | 31.261
Mario Party Superstars - 22.513 | 29.650
Super Smash Bros. Ultimate - 24.539 | 26.904
Live A Live - 29.232 | 24.822
eBaseball Powerful Pro Baseball 2022 - 15.273 | 19.896
Momotaro Dentetsu: Showa, Heisei, Reiwa mo Teiban! - 22.489 | 17.142
Clubhouse Games: 51 Worldwide Classics - 11.843 | 15.935
Pokémon Legends: Arceus - 11.274 | 12.231
The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild - 12.389 | 12.217


2022 new releases LTD (Aug 28)

Nintendo Switch Sports - 706.637 | 764.513
Kirby and the Forgotten Land - 869.546 | 962.089
Xenoblade Chronicles 3 - 161.990 | 160.342
Monster Hunter Rise + Sunbreak Set - 255.660 | 243.246
Live A Live - 114.467 | 103.723
eBaseball Powerful Pro Baseball 2022 - 223.407 | 268.156
Pokémon Legends: Arceus - 2.287.806 | 2.333.196
Source: PillFencer (installbase)
Last edited by Agente42 - on 07 September 2022