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Shatts said:
curl-6 said:

No offense but this kinda comes off as just wanting a way to make the Switch not look as good. 

Comparing one console against two from other companies with combined  totals of 180 million plus is kinda pointless.

ignore him he's just a hater

No it's not pointless, as other users suggested the same. It gives better perspective and also put every optimistic opinion of 160+ and 180 and 200M to the test. What's wrong about this ? So comparing Switch to the Wii U + 3DS wasn't pointless but this now is pointless? And why I would make Switch looks bad in comparison with this ? this is giving a perspective of exactly how will perform and if it has a shot of reaching 160 or 170M. Why this has to be bad thing ?

Also no, I am not a hater, I even told in one of my posts that I like the switch, what's your problem ? And why you all are turning against me and doing it personal ? Because of one prediction that you all don't agree ? There are many other users here with other predictions, yet no one naming them haters or whatever. Why not name everyone who gave and is giving Switch not more than 150M a hater ?

So it's not pointless couple of people to give switch 160M+ even 180M and 200M lifetime predictions, but when someone suggest a comparison with ~170M sales line it's pointless. ? It comes only in your eyes. You can't know what I am thinking in my head for suggesting this comparison to make thoughts, and also it is normal when one system does well to climb up the comparisons and to get better and better competition - in switch's case comparison to DS, and for better perspective and for people who are saying or are so sure about Switch winning this one - it's good to have battle with ~170M sales line. Why not ? Are you so unconfident in switch's ability ? or just not sure about your and many other optimistic 160+M predictions ? There isn't need for me to make it look bad, this was never my intention and even if it was, what is done is done you can't take it away. When one systems sells good you can't take it's success regardless what are you saying about it. Switch has already done very well and I've applaud for it numerous times, when talking about it's sales performance.

@Shatts Now go and tell @Alex_The_Hedgehog and @Norion that are haters because they think the same as me (that the comparison is not pointless and that Switch won't outsell the DS and @curl-6 go tell @Norion that it's pointless. You won't. Why ? Because you turn only to me personal, but when other people telling the same their opinion is not pointless and @ShattsNow they are not haters. But if it's me then my things are pointless and I am big bad hater, and what was the other thing ? Quickrick alt. The same thing as @peachbuggy said - I've been talked to my self in my sales thread (with the every week post updates so that the thread move up) but yet @PAOerfulone doing the exact same thing in his sales thread and @peachbuggy not mentioning him at all. So only I am the worst, and everyone else may take or make the same things or actions or have same or similar opinions as me but they are not bad, only I am. And then you tell me it's not personal, yes I see who and how makes his statements and I can see who is making his posts personal and who not. There are others that may not agree with me, but haven't gone through the personal line. You with your posts go through that line - @Shatts, @curl-6 and @peachbuggy Which as far as I know is againts the rules of the forum.

Last edited by yo33331 - on 25 July 2022

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yo33331 said:
Shatts said:

ignore him he's just a hater

No it's not pointless, as other users suggested the same. It gives better perspective and also put every optimistic opinion of 160+ and 180 and 200M to the test. What's wrong about this ? So comparing Switch to the Wii U + 3DS wasn't pointless but this now is pointless? And why I would make Switch looks bad in comparison with this ? this is giving a perspective of exactly how will perform and if it has a shot of reaching 160 or 170M. Why this has to be bad thing ?

Also no, I am not a hater, I even told in one of my posts that I like the switch, what's your problem ? And why you all are turning against me and doing it personal ? Because of one prediction that you all don't agree ? There are many other users here with other predictions, yet no one naming them haters or whatever. Why not name everyone who gave and is giving Switch not more than 150M a hater ?

So it's not pointless couple of people to give switch 160M+ even 180M and 200M lifetime predictions, but when someone suggest a comparison with ~170M sales line it's pointless. ?

First off, Switch vs. Wii U + 3DS has always made sense because Switch succeeded both of these consoles, so it's akin to comparing the PS5 vs. the PS4.

Secondly, I don't see the merit in doing Switch vs. two competitors' consoles combined. Switch vs. DS already provides enough perspective to gauge whether or not Switch can sell 160m+. Switch vs. PS3+360 or Switch vs. PS4 + XB1 would paint exactly the same picture, so they'd be redundant comparisons for VGC as a sales website. Of course, users in the forums are free to make any kind of comparisons, but for VGC articles it would look very arbitrary.

Through 64 months we have:

Switch: ~110m
DS: ~122m
PS3 + 360: ~115m
PS4 + XB1: ~135m

But while PS4 + XB1 post the highest LTD by a significant margin, we already know that they will finish below PS3 + 360, because that's how different sales curves can be. Regardless of what we compare Switch against, ultimately it will always come down to the question of the longevity of Switch, not what we compare Switch against. That's why comparisons against Sony and Microsoft consoles won't tell us anything that we don't already know anyway.



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yo33331 said:
Shatts said:

ignore him he's just a hater

No it's not pointless, as other users suggested the same. It gives better perspective and also put every optimistic opinion of 160+ and 180 and 200M to the test. What's wrong about this ? So comparing Switch to the Wii U + 3DS wasn't pointless but this now is pointless? And why I would make Switch looks bad in comparison with this ? this is giving a perspective of exactly how will perform and if it has a shot of reaching 160 or 170M. Why this has to be bad thing ?

Also no, I am not a hater, I even told in one of my posts that I like the switch, what's your problem ? And why you all are turning against me and doing it personal ? Because of one prediction that you all don't agree ? There are many other users here with other predictions, yet no one naming them haters or whatever. Why not name everyone who gave and is giving Switch not more than 150M a hater ?

So it's not pointless couple of people to give switch 160M+ even 180M and 200M lifetime predictions, but when someone suggest a comparison with ~170M sales line it's pointless. ?

"better perspective and optimistic opinion" -> prediction 15m-18m this year and talks about decline WOW sooo optimistic 

Didn't check to see Wii U + 3DS but that would make sense because total would be about 90m and both are from Nintendo. Obviously it would make sense to compare Nintendo's previous consoles especially since Switch was a shift from two devices to one. The comparisons and graphs in these threads are clearly made for close numbers, urs is not even close.

"I said I like the switch on one of my post" Nice, the typical I said this so I have all the excuse to be passive aggressive stance. 

Finally, maybe check your profile? Do you really like the Switch? It's fine if you don't, no need to act and passively downplay it... cuz those are the most ill-natured wicked ones.



RolStoppable said:

First off, Switch vs. Wii U + 3DS has always made sense because Switch succeeded both of these consoles, so it's akin to comparing the PS5 vs. the PS4.

Secondly, I don't see the merit in doing Switch vs. two competitors' consoles combined. Switch vs. DS already provides enough perspective to gauge whether or not Switch can sell 160m+. Switch vs. PS3+360 or Switch vs. PS4 + XB1 would paint exactly the same picture, so they'd be redundant comparisons for VGC as a sales website. Of course, users in the forums are free to make any kind of comparisons, but for VGC articles it would look very arbitrary.

Through 64 months we have:

Switch: ~110m
DS: ~122m
PS3 + 360: ~115m
PS4 + XB1: ~135m

But while PS4 + XB1 post the highest LTD by a significant margin, we already know that they will finish below PS3 + 360, because that's how different sales curves can be. Regardless of what we compare Switch against, ultimately it will always come down to the question of the longevity of Switch, not what we compare Switch against. That's why comparisons against Sony and Microsoft consoles won't tell us anything that we don't already know anyway.

I agree. And it was a suggestion, if admins or @trunkswd decide he can make that comparison. If not, yes we have the DS comparison. If Switch beats DS, then there is not anything left to compare it other than those two comparisons.



curl-6 said:
yo33331 said:

can you add switch vs the 360&PS3 combined? or PS4&XB1

No offense but this kinda comes off as just wanting a way to make the Switch not look as good. 

Comparing one console against two from other companies with combined  totals of 180 million plus is kinda pointless.

It sounds like YOU care about "the switch not looking good". That premise wasn't brought up before.  Plus who cares if it does?

Shatts said:
curl-6 said:

No offense but this kinda comes off as just wanting a way to make the Switch not look as good. 

Comparing one console against two from other companies with combined  totals of 180 million plus is kinda pointless.

ignore him he's just a hater

Yeah lets not do that.  There is nothing gained by saying someone is "just a hater".



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yo33331 said:
RolStoppable said:

First off, Switch vs. Wii U + 3DS has always made sense because Switch succeeded both of these consoles, so it's akin to comparing the PS5 vs. the PS4.

Secondly, I don't see the merit in doing Switch vs. two competitors' consoles combined. Switch vs. DS already provides enough perspective to gauge whether or not Switch can sell 160m+. Switch vs. PS3+360 or Switch vs. PS4 + XB1 would paint exactly the same picture, so they'd be redundant comparisons for VGC as a sales website. Of course, users in the forums are free to make any kind of comparisons, but for VGC articles it would look very arbitrary.

Through 64 months we have:

Switch: ~110m
DS: ~122m
PS3 + 360: ~115m
PS4 + XB1: ~135m

But while PS4 + XB1 post the highest LTD by a significant margin, we already know that they will finish below PS3 + 360, because that's how different sales curves can be. Regardless of what we compare Switch against, ultimately it will always come down to the question of the longevity of Switch, not what we compare Switch against. That's why comparisons against Sony and Microsoft consoles won't tell us anything that we don't already know anyway.

I agree. And it was a suggestion, if admins or @trunkswd decide he can make that comparison. If not, yes we have the DS comparison. If Switch beats DS, then there is not anything left to compare it other than those two comparisons.

I agree with Rol. Switch vs PS3+360 or Switch vs PS4+XOne doesn't makes sense to do. At least not until Switch surpasses DS. 

I do plan on doing a Switch vs DS in the US once the Switch outsell the Wii in the US and Switch vs PS4 in Europe once the Switch outsell the PS3 in Europe.



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Shatts said:

"better perspective and optimistic opinion" -> prediction 15m-18m this year and talks about decline WOW sooo optimistic 

Didn't check to see Wii U + 3DS but that would make sense because total would be about 90m and both are from Nintendo. Obviously it would make sense to compare Nintendo's previous consoles especially since Switch was a shift from two devices to one. The comparisons and graphs in these threads are clearly made for close numbers, urs is not even close.

"I said I like the switch on one of my post" Nice, the typical I said this so I have all the excuse to be passive aggressive stance. 

Finally, maybe check your profile? Do you really like the Switch? It's fine if you don't, no need to act and passively downplay it... cuz those are the most ill-natured wicked ones.

What is the connection between suggesting a comparison and my prediction ?

How you can tell if someone likes something by his profile ? Should everyone writes down on their profiles what they like ? are they obliged ?

And no I am not excusing anything. I am saying what I think. Directly. I don't need excuses.

And no there is no need something to be from the same maker to compare. Who cares about this ? The sales are numbers, the numbers don't care nintendo or microsoft or sony. Numbers care about only one or the other, how will the one perform compare to the other sales pace. So when there are people predicting that Switch will pass DS or even pass 160-180 or even reaching 200M then there shouldn't be any problem compare the Switch to a 170M sales line.

It's clear to me why your account is new. It makes sense.

Last edited by yo33331 - on 25 July 2022

Bandorr said:
curl-6 said:

No offense but this kinda comes off as just wanting a way to make the Switch not look as good. 

Comparing one console against two from other companies with combined  totals of 180 million plus is kinda pointless.

It sounds like YOU care about "the switch not looking good". That premise wasn't brought up before.  Plus who cares if it does?

Shatts said:

ignore him he's just a hater

Yeah lets not do that.  There is nothing gained by saying someone is "just a hater".

Thanks. I agree.



yo33331 said:

I agree. And it was a suggestion, if admins or @trunkswd decide he can make that comparison. If not, yes we have the DS comparison. If Switch beats DS, then there is not anything left to compare it other than those two comparisons.

Wii + DS is the most notable one that is left.



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RolStoppable said:
yo33331 said:

I agree. And it was a suggestion, if admins or @trunkswd decide he can make that comparison. If not, yes we have the DS comparison. If Switch beats DS, then there is not anything left to compare it other than those two comparisons.

Wii + DS is the most notable one that is left.

Wii+DS is pretty much impossible for the Switch to achieve. Unless it has the lifespan of say the Game Boy before a successor comes out.



VGChartz Sales Analyst and Writer - William D'Angelo - I stream on Twitch and have my own YouTubeFollow me on Twitter @TrunksWD.

Writer of the Sales Comparison | Weekly Hardware Breakdown Top 10 | Weekly Sales Analysis | Marketshare Features, as well as daily news on the Video Game Industry.