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eva01beserk said:
Azzanation said:

This video says enough.

So does this one.

You literally think that SF looks more like NMS than SC? 

NMS gameplay loop is similar to Subnautica where as SF is like OuterWorlds. I guess you are saying OuterWorlds is like NMS aswell?

Also SC was doing NMS before NMS. Its inspiration evolves from FreeLancer aswell as SC was in development 1 year before NMS's release.

Last edited by Azzanation - on 14 June 2022

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Azzanation said:
eva01beserk said:

So does this one.

You literally think that SF looks more like NMS than SC? 

NMS gameplay loop is similar to Subnautica where as SF is like OuterWorlds.

Also SC was doing NMS before NMS. Its inspiration evolves from FreeLancer to Star Citizen which was in development 1 year before NMS release and now we have Star Field from Bethesda.

It's literaly the same game you would get 6 years later with a bigger budget. 

Never played subnautica. But we have no gameplay loop at all from starfield. Tod said our job us explorering just like no mans sky.

It can start production a decade before it still acomplished nothing but scam millions out of fans. No mans sky released crappy years ago and improved a hell of a lot and you actually got a full game now. So I don't know why you are so down on a game that made a great turn around and is enjoyed by many. But keep praising a official scam. Because of its graphics?



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eva01beserk said:
Azzanation said:

You literally think that SF looks more like NMS than SC? 

NMS gameplay loop is similar to Subnautica where as SF is like OuterWorlds.

Also SC was doing NMS before NMS. Its inspiration evolves from FreeLancer to Star Citizen which was in development 1 year before NMS release and now we have Star Field from Bethesda.

It's literaly the same game you would get 6 years later with a bigger budget. 

Never played subnautica. But we have no gameplay loop at all from starfield. Tod said our job us explorering just like no mans sky.

It can start production a decade before it still acomplished nothing but scam millions out of fans. No mans sky released crappy years ago and improved a hell of a lot and you actually got a full game now. So I don't know why you are so down on a game that made a great turn around and is enjoyed by many. But keep praising a official scam. Because of its graphics?

No its not.

You understand what genre NMS is right? You understand StarField is basically Fallout in space correct? Fallout is nothing like NMS.

Just because you can build bases and travel planet to planet doesn't mean its the exact same game lol ffs.

I have nothing against NMS, its evolve to be a good game however showing clips of things you can do in NMS and comparing them to SF is misleading. StarField is an RPG. The gameplay, combat, objectives, hand crafted worlds, NPCs and Lore etc are all completely different to what NMS offers where as Star Citizen offers similar attributes and Gameplay. 

Star Citizen being a scam has zero to do with the point being made. The demo exists, the website and community exists. You can play it right now if you have a decent PC.

If anything, NMS is a poor mans Star Citizen while Star Field seems to fit in between them both.

Last edited by Azzanation - on 14 June 2022

We should add Elite Dangerous to the comparison too since it's set in space

It feels weird to see how hard they're being compared, Star Citizen is a Multiplayer Space Trading/Combat Simulation, No Mans Sky is a Survival title with Multiplayer elements, Starfield is a Single Player ARPG. These titles may share some similar themes (they're set in space) and do have a few similar mechanics (resource gathering) although many games share stuff with each other, at the end of the day, they won't feel nothing alike in gameplay, story, tone or even art style. Nothing quite feels like a Bethesda ARPG.

Edit - Just to add, comparisons are fine but to imply they're basically the same game is weird, Lol. I don't think they look the same Tbh but if I had to, I'd say Starfield looks more like Star Citizen than No Mans Sky (because there's a gigantic art-style, story, gameplay difference) but at the end of the day they absolutely will not feel like each other at all.

Last edited by Ryuu96 - on 14 June 2022

Ryuu96 said:

We should add Elite Dangerous to the comparison too since it's set in space

It feels weird to see how hard they're being compared, Star Citizen is a Multiplayer Space Trading/Combat Simulation, No Mans Sky is a Survival title with Multiplayer elements, Starfield is a Single Player ARPG. These titles may share some similar themes (they're set in space) and do have a few similar mechanics (resource gathering) although many games share stuff with each other, at the end of the day, they won't feel nothing alike in gameplay, story, tone or even art style. Nothing quite feels like a Bethesda ARPG.

Edit - Just to add, comparisons are fine but to imply they're basically the same game is weird, Lol. I don't think they look the same Tbh but if I had to, I'd say Starfield looks more like Star Citizen than No Mans Sky (because there's a gigantic art-style, story, gameplay difference) but at the end of the day they absolutely will not feel like each other at all.

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Ryuu96 said:

We should add Elite Dangerous to the comparison too since it's set in space

It feels weird to see how hard they're being compared, Star Citizen is a Multiplayer Space Trading/Combat Simulation, No Mans Sky is a Survival title with Multiplayer elements, Starfield is a Single Player ARPG. These titles may share some similar themes (they're set in space) and do have a few similar mechanics (resource gathering) although many games share stuff with each other, at the end of the day, they won't feel nothing alike in gameplay, story, tone or even art style. Nothing quite feels like a Bethesda ARPG.

Edit - Just to add, comparisons are fine but to imply they're basically the same game is weird, Lol. I don't think they look the same Tbh but if I had to, I'd say Starfield looks more like Star Citizen than No Mans Sky (because there's a gigantic art-style, story, gameplay difference) but at the end of the day they absolutely will not feel like each other at all.

Couldnt agree more. They will be different games to eachother but everytime i hear or read that Star Field is like No Man Sky i have to facepalm. 

As you stated that Star Field is a ARPG which speaks more volume than watching a video of NMS and SF comparison.



I have played a crap ton of NMS and SF really does not even come close to giving me the feel that its going to be even close to that game. Yeah they may share some similar concepts but then again so does just about every space sim out there, some more than others just like every FPS. The concepts of the 2 games are completely different so I highly doubt the experience will be remotely the same. Just the whole perks for your character, ship building is on another level but we will see when this game gets closure to release and see more info.



After watching the show, Starfield felt like a mix of 3 different games to me.

No Mans Sky + Star Citizen + Destiny.

Seems more like No Mans Sky, with some Star Citizen and some Destiny.

The intro immediately reminded me a bit of Destiny, but after seeing it all I'd say there's less Destiny in there than the other two games.

Looks ok right now, but need to see a lot more before I could get hyped about it. It was definitely better than the Halo Infinite early showing.



Starfield has various elements that many other space exploration games have, I really don't see how only NMS becomes the sole comparison.

We've got Starbound, which featured space exploration, mining for resources, building outposts, hiring ppl to do jobs for you and doing jobs for, quests, etc.

Elite Dangerous: Space exploration, mining, quests/missions etc.

Space Engineers: Mining, making your own ship, creating outposts of your own, etc.

NMS at it's core is purely exploration, cataloguing and tiny fights with pirate NPC's. The game largely doesn't want you doing "illegal/bad" acts, or it sends the space robot cops on your ass 90% of the time, meaning the game in general just wants you to go around and mine/build bases and scan shit, and to this day, that still remains as one of the core pillars of NMS, and I still see folks on Steam forums still asking years later: "when is the game going to have proper combat?"...

A game like Starbound, from 2013 has more combat, more enemy NPC's to fight and a story than NMS does, because NMS is still preoccupied with procedurally generated worlds and telling it's players to scan shit 99% of the time, which is the complete opposite of combat, story and questing.

Folks are only making some comparisons to NMS due to, well, scanning and mining shit and flying through space, but that's honestly a narrow view of Starfield, and giving far, far too much credit to NMS, when other space games and RPG's have had similar mechanics like that before NMS even showed up. It honestly comes off like the kids who go "isn't that the dude from Fornite?", without knowing where the character originated from, because they thought Fortnite was *the* original game, when it's really just doing what others have done before and acts like a shell to host other characters and existing ideas (like building/crafting, which isn't new at all, and neither is adding characters from other games).



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I don't know why people are even arguing about this but there really is only one meaningful answer.

Past Bethesda games, except in space.

That is the most accurate comparison, period. You only need watch the video to see Fallout 4 and Skyrim with a splash of previous Elder Scrolls/Fallout RPG conventions. It's literally the Bethesda formula plus alien worlds and starships. That is the only thing you need to consider when deciding if you want to play this game or not.