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cyberninja45 said:
sundin13 said:

If we are talking about prevention, removing the "mass" is kind of the point. It would kind of be pointless to do an analysis of school shooting excluding the instances when the shooter is stopped if we are discussing whether certain methods work for preventing shootings. That invalidates the whole analysis. 

And, if I may be so bold, where is all of your evidence proving your hypothesis? Why are the people who disagree with you the only ones tasked with providing studies to suit you?

Its people in this thread who seem to claim that more guns means more masshootings or whatever, not me.

Well:

A) That's a shitty way to debate

B) If you are looking for a perfect study to fix the exact question you are looking for then sorry bud, you ain't gonna find it. Science doesn't work like Rule 34. You essentially build the house of your argument out of the information you have available. In this case, we can get pretty close to your questions at hand, but alas, it isn't quite possible to fit it perfectly. Like, the block fits in the hole, but there is a bit of wiggle room. It provides us a reasonable assumption regarding your question and I see no reason why that shouldn't be considered good enough here. 



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sundin13 said:
cyberninja45 said:

Its people in this thread who seem to claim that more guns means more masshootings or whatever, not me.

Well:

A) That's a shitty way to debate

B) If you are looking for a perfect study to fix the exact question you are looking for then sorry bud, you ain't gonna find it. Science doesn't work like Rule 34. You essentially build the house of your argument out of the information you have available. In this case, we can get pretty close to your questions at hand, but alas, it isn't quite possible to fit it perfectly. Like, the block fits in the hole, but there is a bit of wiggle room. It provides us a reasonable assumption regarding your question and I see no reason why that shouldn't be considered good enough here. 

Well you gonna have to be very precise and questions directly answered if you gonna persuade people to give up perceived basic rights.

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cyberninja45 said:
sundin13 said:

Well:

A) That's a shitty way to debate

B) If you are looking for a perfect study to fix the exact question you are looking for then sorry bud, you ain't gonna find it. Science doesn't work like Rule 34. You essentially build the house of your argument out of the information you have available. In this case, we can get pretty close to your questions at hand, but alas, it isn't quite possible to fit it perfectly. Like, the block fits in the hole, but there is a bit of wiggle room. It provides us a reasonable assumption regarding your question and I see no reason why that shouldn't be considered good enough here. 

Well you gonna have to very precise and questions directly answered if you gonna persuade people to give up basic rights.

So you're just planning on endlessly stonewalling while kids die because your hyper-specific questions don't have perfect answers?

Cool.

Cool.

When do we start to acknowledge the basic rights of our kids to not get fucking murdered in their schools?



sundin13 said:
cyberninja45 said:

Well you gonna have to very precise and questions directly answered if you gonna persuade people to give up basic rights.

So your just planning on endlessly stonewalling while kids die because your hyper-specific questions don't have perfect answers?

Cool.

Cool.

What?

How are gonna make change you want if you can't persuade people?



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cyberninja45 said:
sundin13 said:

So your just planning on endlessly stonewalling while kids die because your hyper-specific questions don't have perfect answers?

Cool.

Cool.

What?

How are gonna make change you want if you can't persuade people?

The kids getting slaughtered in their schools should persuade you enough, honestly. 

Besides, the data we have is pretty good. It is simply unreasonable (and vile) to demand all your questions be answered perfectly by limited data on mass school shootings before being willing to act. 



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sundin13 said:
cyberninja45 said:

What?

How are gonna make change you want if you can't persuade people?

The kids getting slaughtered in their schools should persuade you enough, honestly. 

Besides, the data we have is pretty good. It is simply unreasonable (and vile) to demand all your questions be answered perfectly by limited data on mass school shootings before being willing to act. 

Its not me you hv to persuade



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Nvm, no more feeding the troll.

Last edited by JWeinCom - on 28 May 2022

The parents of the victims need to sue the city, the school, the police department, the county and the state for the slow response time. That way at least something will chance eventually on a local or state-wide level.



cyberninja45 said:
Chrkeller said:

I think the first step is raising the age for guns to 21.  But hey, some of us like solving problems while others want to ignore.  

What's the last step?

Collect data, decide if it helped and if it should stay law. 

Also known as problem solving.



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I look at my parents generation and wonder what the fuck where they thinking with racial discrimination, never understanding how it took so long for civil rights legislation.

I feel like my kids are going to think the same thing about gun laws when they are older.



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