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Little off topic but can someone explain to me how NSO sign up works? I bought Splatoon 2 with a 12mnth NSO code for my nephew from Amazon but just curious how this will work if they haven't set up an account yet. Presumably they will have to set up an account first to use the code? but does that mean they will have to make a payment to get access to input the code?

I haven't "redeemed" the code yet on Amazon but I presume this will just give me an alphanumeric code that they can input on the Switch... it's not linked to my Amazon account right?



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HigHurtenflurst said:

Little off topic but can someone explain to me how NSO sign up works? I bought Splatoon 2 with a 12mnth NSO code for my nephew from Amazon but just curious how this will work if they haven't set up an account yet. Presumably they will have to set up an account first to use the code? but does that mean they will have to make a payment to get access to input the code?

I haven't "redeemed" the code yet on Amazon but I presume this will just give me an alphanumeric code that they can input on the Switch... it's not linked to my Amazon account right?

You need a Nintendo account through which you subscribe to NSO. If you enter this code on the eshop or the website you are automatically subscribed for 12 months. A Nintendo account is obviously free.



Kakadu18 said:
HigHurtenflurst said:

Little off topic but can someone explain to me how NSO sign up works? I bought Splatoon 2 with a 12mnth NSO code for my nephew from Amazon but just curious how this will work if they haven't set up an account yet. Presumably they will have to set up an account first to use the code? but does that mean they will have to make a payment to get access to input the code?

I haven't "redeemed" the code yet on Amazon but I presume this will just give me an alphanumeric code that they can input on the Switch... it's not linked to my Amazon account right?

You need a Nintendo account through which you subscribe to NSO. If you enter this code on the eshop or the website you are automatically subscribed for 12 months. A Nintendo account is obviously free.

Ah cool, thanks, they may already have an account then just without the online gaming features.



mZuzek said:
Kakadu18 said:

Literally all the specials and the music are new. It only looks like Splatoon 2 if you haven't played Splatoon 2. I've also noticed some new outfits and haircuts.

Edit: Also the sqawn points work completely different.

I played Splatoon 2 and think 3 looks just like it. Like obviously it has its differences, like the ones you pointed out, but it still seems like the same "base" game, same engine, same physics, same movement, and probably a lot of the same weapons, stages and assets in general. Maybe about as big a difference as between 1 and 2, which was passable back then because of the short time between them, now it's just... Feels like the series is stagnant already, and reluctant to take a step forward in any meaningful way. Feels like Nintendo's Call of Duty really.

I don't think that's a fair assessment at all. CoD is an annual game where new iterations just get mass produced on an annual schedule. This isn't Splatoon 8 coming out! And I mean it's on the same system as the last one, so obviously it's gonna look similar, not gonna have massive graphical upgrades, and is going to be the same art style because that is the style of the series.

The question is, what is the new content and what interesting new things does the game do. Weapons, modes, maps, single player campaign, moves, etc. If there's not a bunch of new interesting content in those areas then yeah it will seem like something that could have just been a DLC on Splatoon 2. But if there's a ton of new content then nothing wrong with a new game coming out 5 years later.



mZuzek said:
Kakadu18 said:

This Splatoon 3 gameplay looks nothing like the previous two Splatoon games. It will feel very different, that's obvious to me. It would need to literally not be a shooter anymore to be more different. They changed everything that can be changed while retaining what makes it a Splatoon game.

Instead of tinkering around the edges by changing the world, weapons, mechanics, story, etc. why didn’t they change the…
I’m not sure what else you’re supposed to change, but why didn’t they change that!?

Yeah man, it looks nothing like them. Basically the only way to change it more would be to turn it into a dating sim, because they changed absolutely everything else.

Come on, you know that's hyperbole. You can't actually believe that.

The thing they have to change is exactly what this guy from the comment is saying. "Not sure what" is exactly what had to be changed. That's what changes from one game in a franchise to another, the feel of it, the physics, the underlying code, you can't describe it but you know it the moment you pick up the controller and things feel different, and you realize this is an entirely new game you'll have to learn how to play again. That is the one thing Splatoon 3 does not change. It is the exact same engine with maybe a few minimal tweaks. The changes are all to the content and mechanics that are put on top of it, but the base remains the same, and that makes it underwhelming.

In all truth, I'm not sure I could ever be impressed by another Splatoon game on the Switch, which is why I don't think there should have been one. It's nice that they're changing the weapons and stages and such, the mechanics seem mostly the same but with a few new ones on top, hopefully they improve the game. But the single-player seems like another major disappointment, given how little they've shown from it, it implies they don't have much on that front. Which is especially sad given that this game is being made out of a pre-existing foundation, they could've dedicated all their effort into making the content a lot more interesting but it doesn't seem to be the case. Who knows, maybe it is, but they're certainly not showing much confidence in it.

There is still more than enough time to show more of the single player. Them not showing much yet doesn't mean anything. 

I'm pretty sure it will feel different enough based on everything I've seen. The controls and whatnot don't need to be completely changed for that. The latest trailer basically showed that movement itself will be different, in particular when in squid form. At the 3:05 mark in the trailer you can see an inkling spinning while jumping, also way further than it's possible in Splatoon 2. Things like this will make it feel different. It may not be enough for you, but it's just right for me.



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mZuzek said:

I played Splatoon 2 and think 3 looks just like it. Like obviously it has its differences, like the ones you pointed out, but it still seems like the same "base" game, same engine, same physics, same movement, and probably a lot of the same weapons, stages and assets in general. Maybe about as big a difference as between 1 and 2, which was passable back then because of the short time between them, now it's just... Feels like the series is stagnant already, and reluctant to take a step forward in any meaningful way. Feels like Nintendo's Call of Duty really.

mZuzek said:

It made sense for 2 to be iterative because Nintendo obviously wanted Splatoon on the Switch and that meant less time to make a different game, instead they could take everything from the first one and refine into a much better sequel and add a lot more content. It was totally fine for what it was.

Now it's just like... everyone expected this to be a once-per-generation series like Smash or Mario Kart. Both of which are series whose games are pretty different from each other, while still retaining the basics and essence of what makes them what they are. No one is asking Nintendo to make an open-world Splatoon, just that they could put some ambition into it.

It saddens me because I really love Splatoon but a lot of that love came from how promising it was as an IP and now it feels like its potential is being wasted.

Ctrl + H, "Pokemon" for "Splatoon", and just about everything still applies.



It's funny we aren't even getting a single new Mario Kart for the Switch, but we do get two new Splatoon's...

For me Splatoon 2 was more or less very similar to the original but on a new console with token single player content and new modes for online play.
Extensive single player content was added via DLC that meant nothing as I stopped buying DLC last gen (and now might even profit with the NSO addition).

Splatoon can expand itself a lot in the single player department, still need to play the Octo expansion to see how much they went there, but this third title does seem to have bigger focus on story, at least from previous trailers. For online modes, they still have not shown any new ones, right?

mZuzek said:

But the single-player seems like another major disappointment, given how little they've shown from it, it implies they don't have much on that front. 

Too early to make that judgement call, to me it seems the opposite, they are not showing anything yet to specifically surprise you mZuzek around summer with deep-open-world-single-player-content, they want to make you a fan again

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mZuzek said:
TomaTito said:

Too early to make that judgement call, to me it seems the opposite, they are not showing anything yet to specifically surprise you mZuzek around summer with deep-open-world-single-player-content, they want to make you a fan again

Don't get me wrong though, I'm nowhere near the point of disliking Splatoon or anything. I like both games quite a lot and I'm sure I'll enjoy the third one too, whenever I get to play it. I get why they're keeping the same foundation for a third game, it's because it's a damn good foundation. I just wanted it to have more of a "this is a new game" feel rather than "this is new content".

To tell you the truth, I am also on your camp, the base Splatoon 2 did not bring enough FRESH ideas for my liking and played it way less than the original as I've grown bored of the online matches. Splatoon 3 has to really surprise me if they want my purchase, if not I'll just wait for the next title on the next console... together with Mario Kart :-/



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curl-6 said:
mZuzek said:

It made sense for 2 to be iterative because Nintendo obviously wanted Splatoon on the Switch and that meant less time to make a different game, instead they could take everything from the first one and refine into a much better sequel and add a lot more content. It was totally fine for what it was.

Now it's just like... everyone expected this to be a once-per-generation series like Smash or Mario Kart. Both of which are series whose games are pretty different from each other, while still retaining the basics and essence of what makes them what they are. No one is asking Nintendo to make an open-world Splatoon, just that they could put some ambition into it.

It saddens me because I really love Splatoon but a lot of that love came from how promising it was as an IP and now it feels like its potential is being wasted.

I personally just don't feel like Splatoon 3 needs to be like Mario Kart or Smash. 

It has a new setting, new campaign, new gameplay mechanics/weapons/maps, new music and presentation, quite possibly still more additions we don't know about yet.

It's a sequel in the vein of something like the Uncharted or Halo sequels, or most franchises in gaming, and to me that's okay.

There's room for both once-per-console games that reinvent themselves with each entry, and those that refine and improve a proven formula. 

Uncharted is single player. I think this a pretty relevant distinction. A multi-player game, a PAID multi-player game I must adress, needs a reason to abandon the current game and go buying the next one. Majority of Splatoon userbase will spend their time playing multi-player matches hence you need stronger reasons to get the next installment. 

And Halo is... I will refrain to say what I think about it because I don't want to start fights here

For Splatoon it don't need to be once per generation, but still lacking some substance for a sequel. Nothing I've seen so far is compelling me to get the next one, I see no major improvements in graphics, in maps or in gameplay. I've seing new guns, couldn't any of that be in Splatoon 2? I'm expecting this one had more multi-player options (or simply different options) aside of Turf War and Salmon Run, and/or new matches to play ranked other than the currents ones (Tower Control, Splatzones, etc). Is this is fulfilled I will embrace Splatoon 3, otherwise I will keep playing Splatoon 2 for as long I'm able to find matches 



The Japanese release date tweet for Splatoon 3 is now the third most liked gaming related tweet ever. They sure do love Splatoon over there.

https://twitter.com/SplatoonJP/status/1517488719900536832?s=20&t=a57BClKcD7YX7JMwZkIrfQ