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What KratosLives fails to understand is the simple fact that Ukrainians face nothing less than slavery if they choose to give up. The country has every right to defend itself and only russia alone is to blame for each and every wounded or dead person.

And it doesn't even matter what NATO did right or wrong in the past, let alone single members of the defensive alliance. Nothing of that justifies a war.

That said I am very pleased to see that the russian military is quite pathetic. I'm still frustrated we can't do anything about Ukraine right now, but I'm also relieved that NATO states don't have to fear anything from the little angry man in the kremlin. Putin is dreaming about the Soviet Union while russia is in a pathetic state and essentially nothing more than a chinese colony these days.

Russians need to stand up and end fascism in russia. It's the only way to save the country from falling back to the dark ages and getting about as isolated as North Korea in the very near future.



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OdinHades said:

What KratosLives fails to understand is the simple fact that Ukrainians face nothing less than slavery if they choose to give up. The country has every right to defend itself and only russia alone is to blame for each and every wounded or dead person.

And it doesn't even matter what NATO did right or wrong in the past, let alone single members of the defensive alliance. Nothing of that justifies a war.

That said I am very pleased to see that the russian military is quite pathetic. I'm still frustrated we can't do anything about Ukraine right now, but I'm also relieved that NATO states don't have to fear anything from the little angry man in the kremlin. Putin is dreaming about the Soviet Union while russia is in a pathetic state and essentially nothing more than a chinese colony these days.

Russians need to stand up and end fascism in russia. It's the only way to save the country from falling back to the dark ages and getting about as isolated as North Korea in the very near future.

I wouldn't call their military pathetic. Don't be fooled by the media headlines,  they vastly out perform the ukranians and are doing a lot of damage, unfortunately.  The worst part , the worst from them has yet to come. 



KratosLives said:
OdinHades said:

What KratosLives fails to understand is the simple fact that Ukrainians face nothing less than slavery if they choose to give up. The country has every right to defend itself and only russia alone is to blame for each and every wounded or dead person.

And it doesn't even matter what NATO did right or wrong in the past, let alone single members of the defensive alliance. Nothing of that justifies a war.

That said I am very pleased to see that the russian military is quite pathetic. I'm still frustrated we can't do anything about Ukraine right now, but I'm also relieved that NATO states don't have to fear anything from the little angry man in the kremlin. Putin is dreaming about the Soviet Union while russia is in a pathetic state and essentially nothing more than a chinese colony these days.

Russians need to stand up and end fascism in russia. It's the only way to save the country from falling back to the dark ages and getting about as isolated as North Korea in the very near future.

I wouldn't call their military pathetic. Don't be fooled by the media headlines,  they vastly out perform the ukranians and are doing a lot of damage, unfortunately.  The worst part , the worst from them has yet to come. 

this is true I'm afraid

Ukraine is doing an amazing job resisting, but Russia will keep destroying Ukraine until they are unable to, either until they run out of resources, or until Putin falls and replaced by someone sane or until NATO is left with no choice than to intervene

I don't believe that NATO rules out in intervention, they just try to resolve the issue as smoothly and peacefully as possible, supporting Ukraine until it can't resist no more, and if the Russian economy is still capable of destroying Ukraine after a while, causing a genocide of millions of people, NATO will be forced to intervene

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KratosLives said:
OdinHades said:

What KratosLives fails to understand is the simple fact that Ukrainians face nothing less than slavery if they choose to give up. The country has every right to defend itself and only russia alone is to blame for each and every wounded or dead person.

And it doesn't even matter what NATO did right or wrong in the past, let alone single members of the defensive alliance. Nothing of that justifies a war.

That said I am very pleased to see that the russian military is quite pathetic. I'm still frustrated we can't do anything about Ukraine right now, but I'm also relieved that NATO states don't have to fear anything from the little angry man in the kremlin. Putin is dreaming about the Soviet Union while russia is in a pathetic state and essentially nothing more than a chinese colony these days.

Russians need to stand up and end fascism in russia. It's the only way to save the country from falling back to the dark ages and getting about as isolated as North Korea in the very near future.

I wouldn't call their military pathetic. Don't be fooled by the media headlines,  they vastly out perform the ukranians and are doing a lot of damage, unfortunately.  The worst part , the worst from them has yet to come. 

It’s then basically down to size - Russia still has the advantage because it has more resources than Ukraine to draw on. But still given it’s size and firepower compared to Ukraine it was expected win within days, but right now we’re nearly at the 1 month mark and no end in sight.

In 2008 when Russia attacked Georgia they did win in a month, but even back then it was suggested that Russia had performed below the capability that would be expected of them and a strong opposing force might cause them problems. Well Ukraine is strong than Georgia and you are seeing the result. Now imagine if Russia tried this against a richer European nation with a more advanced and better equipped army or Nato as a whole. Or if they have to split their forces between multiple fronts like the Caucasus, Eastern Europe, the North and possibly even the Far East.



Ryuu96 said:

How the fuck does a Black Sea fleet commander get killed...People still trying to deny that Russia's army isn't fucking incompetent, if they win this it will only be through sheer numbers alone. We're already 1 less Russian Generals killed in 3 weeks of fighting versus America's almost 10 years in Vietnam and thousands of deaths which exceed America's 20 years in Afghanistan and yes, Russia is using their good equipment too, visualised losses of 1,500 pieces of equipment such as tanks, drones, etc. Tanks which were recently put into circulation or TOS-1A which is one of their deadliest weapons made.

I saw yesterday on the kyiv independent twitter "Russian assets loss summary" that they claim to have destroyed one more boat. However I didn't see any confirmations from other source.



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Ryuu96 said:

How the fuck does a Black Sea fleet commander get killed...People still trying to deny that Russia's army isn't fucking incompetent, if they win this it will only be through sheer numbers alone. We're already 1 less Russian Generals killed in 3 weeks of fighting versus America's almost 10 years in Vietnam and thousands of deaths which exceed America's 20 years in Afghanistan and yes, Russia is using their good equipment too, visualised losses of 1,500 pieces of equipment such as tanks, drones, etc. Tanks which were recently put into circulation or TOS-1A which is one of their deadliest weapons made.

Russia's military strategy in a nutshell:



Hiku said:

A Far Cry from what the Russians were expecting, I’ll bet.

Yes, the pun was intentional. Happy hunting to the Beastmaster.



Hiku said:

I kind of doubt this is true, but that's a funny take on the situation anyway. Also, I kind of hope it's rather this than the animals dying of starvation.



If Russia wouldn't have their damn long range missiles I think they would lose this war but they will just keep shooting thousands the next months or even years till they get all the big cities in the east and south. And except for Kiev and Dnipro there is like only hundreds of miles of fields which then will be sadly Ukraine's problem to ever reach these cities to take them back.

Without their missiles Russia would be totally clueless how to win anything

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KratosLives said:

Part of why they are tightning a grip on social media or news networks , is because of the propaganda and false media that have come from the other side. Debunked old footage, statements that were found out and proven to be not true have come from ukrain and western media, to paint a picture for the world to see, and it's all on youtube. So they ain't innocent themselves. If you are going to portray something doing it right.

Lol, Even you must know the first order of business when controlling the population is the control of information.  Basically, you are advocating shutting down all information unless its given by the government because someone can say false information.  You are basically standing for a military statement where all information is controlled and filtered by the government, is that truly your position.