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Soundwave said:
Zippy6 said:

PS5 is $499! Even with less sales more impressive than Switch! Beast! 👏👏👏

Am I doing it right?

If it were to sell 154 million units, sure that would be perfectly valid. 

That's called critical thinking. 

But it's not going to sell 154 million units, not even close. Probably not even 120 million unless Sony delays the PS6 by a year or two (which at this rate could happen). 

Wow PS5 being 60% more expensive still has to sell 154m? That doesn't seem right!

110m $499 RRP > 155m $299 RRP.  💪



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Zippy6 said:
Soundwave said:

If it were to sell 154 million units, sure that would be perfectly valid. 

That's called critical thinking. 

But it's not going to sell 154 million units, not even close. Probably not even 120 million unless Sony delays the PS6 by a year or two (which at this rate could happen). 

Wow PS5 being 60% more expensive still has to sell 154m? That doesn't seem right!

110m $499 RRP > 155m $299 RRP.  💪

The $399.99 SKU for the PS5 is likely the no.1 seller at this point given that almost no one on the PS ecosystem is buying physical games anymore. 

If you want to play the inflation game too, $299.99 from 2017 is $396 today. 



Soundwave said:
Zippy6 said:

Wow PS5 being 60% more expensive still has to sell 154m? That doesn't seem right!

110m $499 RRP > 155m $299 RRP.  💪

The $399.99 SKU for the PS5 is likely the no.1 seller at this point given that almost no one on the PS ecosystem is buying physical games anymore. And they heavily discount at times over the year as well. 

If you want to play the inflation game too, $299.99 from 2017 is $396 today. 

Well we've hit most of the points for this incredibly dumb road now, inflation is here. I'm glad we've all gone on this pointless journey of downplaying nonsense trying to use whatever metric we can to elevate our chosen console above the others when there is absolutely zero way for there ever to be a fair comparison with all the thousands of factors at play. As amusing as it is for the sake of the thread potentially returning to normality I'll stop making the situation worse! God bless the PS2, Switch and DS. 💪

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CosmicSex said:
Soundwave said:

Not my problem if PS2 fans want to get upset that someone dared to say selling an extra 6 million units but needing more 4 1/2 extra years to do it with is not terribly impressive. If you disagree with that, fine.

Switch really is by far the most impressive seller in my opinion even if doesn't sell another single unit because it sold 154 million basically with no price cuts other than a cheaper watered down variant and even a price increase at this point for 8 years+.

There's no way the PS2 could pull that off, even the DS I don't think would do it without price reductions.


Though I suppose because I dared to point that a perfectly rational point with context, some people are going to throw a little tantrum about how you can't talk about that.

No... what you are trying to do is create the appearance that people are arguing with you because they aren't acceptable your own subjective meterics.  PS2 fans? Really lol come on now.  You are saying what should and shouldn't be considered impressive and daring people to have any other oponions.  Well I think any system that sells over 100 million is really impressive.  Prove me wrong lol.  

I don't think 6 million extra sold while needing a whopping 4 1/2 extra years to do so at a discount price range is impressive. 

Should I? Why exactly? 

If this was a sports discussion and there were two basketball athletes, Player A played for 11 years and Player B played for 15 years, player B barely scored more points than Player A ... no one would think Player B is the better player or even the better scorer in any sports discussion. Especially if Player A also beat Player B head to head multiple times (as the Switch has beaten the PS2 in a yearly sales rate from year 1 to 8 more often than not). 

There would be nothing controversial about that either, it's only video game statistics are some how supposed to be interpreted completely differently because logic doesn't apply here I guess? Even in game sales discussions you bet your ass when two games are compared if one game had an extra week or two of sales for a month, everyone and their grandma is pretty quick to point out one game had more weeks to sell than the other did, why is LTD sales of consoles are basically the only metric in which no context, no consideration of sales time on market is apparently allowed at all? It makes no sense whatsoever. 

I understand if it was only a extra few months difference, fine, you hand wave that away, but 4 fucking years extra? That's a bit much to just gloss over if you ask me. It's hilarious actually that this barely gets discussed at all when comparing the DS and PS2, it's a ridiculous gap of time. 

Last edited by Soundwave - on 23 December 2025

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I was trying to think in things that boosted and hindered each console. With the Switch, I thought things like COVID and Trump's tariffs, for example. When it came to the PS2 I thought about PS3's problematic lauch + discounts, but I couldn't think of things that hindered its sales. One can mention the video game market back then being small, but I was trying to things that broke the console's legs, like the Trump's tariffs that I mentioned, or how the DS somewhat halted GBA's sales. Can you guys help me here?

I was thinking about that to say that you can't detach a console's sales from the time and circustances it was inserted. We should just accept the context of the console as the part of the reason why it got/will get its final sales numbers. But I was also going to say that saying "If X had happened/happens to console Y, it would have happened/will happen Z with it" isn't downplaying or promoting the console. It's just hypothetical exercise. In the end, it doesn't lead to anything but it's fun to think about the scenario for a moment



CourageTCD said:

I was trying to think in things that boosted and hindered each console. With the Switch, I thought things like COVID and Trump's tariffs, for example. When it came to the PS2 I thought about PS3's problematic lauch + discounts, but I couldn't think of things that hindered its sales. One can mention the video game market back then being small, but I was trying to things that broke the console's legs, like the Trump's tariffs that I mentioned, or how the DS somewhat halted GBA's sales. Can you guys help me here?

I was thinking about that to say that you can't detach a console's sales from the time and circustances it was inserted. We should just accept the context of the console as the part of the reason why it got/will get its final sales numbers. But I was also going to say that saying "If X had happened/happens to console Y, it would have happened/will happen Z with it" isn't downplaying or promoting the console. It's just hypothetical exercise. In the end, it doesn't lead to anything but it's fun to think about the scenario for a moment

You'll never get a 1:1 perfect comparison, but I think any sane person would agree that you should probably factor in when one system has a whopping 4 1/2 extra years in which to sell at for a discount price. 

Like that's freaking almost the entire product cycle of a successful system like the Super NES in years, lol. 

How that's never discussed and how we're just supposed to act like that never happened when it did is laughable. 



Kyuu said:

Initiating obnoxious fanboy mode:

If PS2 was boosted by COVID, had a portable version, and two more years before its successor launched, it would have sold a billion units minimum. Anyone who disagrees is delusional. Software sales without piracy could have hit 10 billion. The facts don't care about your feelings.

Switch is the spiritual successor of Wii, DS, and PSP, and yet it could barely manage outsell the DS despite the much longer lifecycle, COVID, and all of these cheap cheat codes. What a piece of shit!

Wasnt it boosted by the DVD player, hahaha?



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@Soundwave

To use your basketball player example: You're basically saying Switch 1 is Michael Jordan while PS2 is LeBron James?
What would that make the DS? Kobe Bryant?



All this time mostly everyone focusing on what Nin could or couldn't, would or wouldn't do, to put the Switch over the top, above PS2.

Nobody really focusing on what SNY might try to do to make sure that doesn't happen... besides increasing the total sales known even further.

Last edited by EricHiggin - on 23 December 2025

PS1   - ! - We must build a console that can alert our enemies.

PS2  - @- We must build a console that offers online living room gaming.

PS3   - #- We must build a console that’s powerful, social, costs and does everything.

PS4   - $- We must build a console that’s affordable, charges for services, and pumps out exclusives.

PRO  -%-We must build a console that's VR ready, checkerboard upscales, and sells but a fraction of the money printer.

PS5   - ^ -We must build a console that’s a generational cross product, with RT lighting, and price hiking.

PRO  -&- We must build a console that Super Res upscales and continues the cost increases.