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XtremeBG said:
Soundwave said:

They are probably too focused on the Switch 2, but this record is something they could have easily if they really wanted it.

And so was with the DS, and the same was with PS2. Don't you all get it, that by talking what could've been or what could easily be, it is valid for the other consoles as well ? It's like Switch could do it but others don't. They could very easily wait with the 3DS, and cut the price a little more of the DS, and surely it would reach 160 and maybe even 170M. PS2 was selling like 4M for it's last 2 years and it's drops were small year on year, so if they continued to sell it for 2-3-4 more years, it would get to at least 170M for sure. The Switch could also get there if there was a nice 100$ price cut in 2023 or 2024 and maybe launching Switch 2 in 2026. All of the three could sell more, it's not valid only for the Switch. So this saying does not mean " huh look Switch could easily get there and beat the PS2 ". It's not valid since PS2 and even DS would easily do the same if the necessary things happen in their market life too.

Yes ... and?

Nintendo should continue to sell the 3DS. What would be the problem with that? I would frankly like them to continue to sell the N64 and GameCube older systems too (like the real iterations, not mini-consoles). In the past the valid reason for not doing this was because stores didn't have shelf space to carry software titles for older systems, but that's essentially a moot point today as digital distribution exists. 

The only reason the PS2 has this record is not because it was "more popular" it's because it exploited the fact that the PS3 started off horribly and was allowed to sell at a discounted price as a result for several extra years, the Switch is way ahead of the PS2 at this point in its product cycle. 



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Soundwave said:
XtremeBG said:

And so was with the DS, and the same was with PS2. Don't you all get it, that by talking what could've been or what could easily be, it is valid for the other consoles as well ? It's like Switch could do it but others don't. They could very easily wait with the 3DS, and cut the price a little more of the DS, and surely it would reach 160 and maybe even 170M. PS2 was selling like 4M for it's last 2 years and it's drops were small year on year, so if they continued to sell it for 2-3-4 more years, it would get to at least 170M for sure. The Switch could also get there if there was a nice 100$ price cut in 2023 or 2024 and maybe launching Switch 2 in 2026. All of the three could sell more, it's not valid only for the Switch. So this saying does not mean " huh look Switch could easily get there and beat the PS2 ". It's not valid since PS2 and even DS would easily do the same if the necessary things happen in their market life too.

Yes ... and?

Nintendo should continue to sell the 3DS. What would be the problem with that? I would frankly like them to continue to sell the N64 and GameCube older systems too (like the real iterations, not mini-consoles). In the past the valid reason for not doing this was because stores didn't have shelf space to carry software titles for older systems, but that's essentially a moot point today as digital distribution exists. 

The only reason the PS2 has this record is not because it was "more popular" it's because it exploited the fact that the PS3 started off horribly and was allowed to sell at a discounted price as a result for several extra years, the Switch is way ahead of the PS2 at this point in its product cycle. 

I agree with this, ps2 wasnt That populair against the gamecube and xbox, i mean combine those 2 and ps2 still had a pacman against it.

O...

Wait.....



 

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xl-klaudkil said:
Soundwave said:

Yes ... and?

Nintendo should continue to sell the 3DS. What would be the problem with that? I would frankly like them to continue to sell the N64 and GameCube older systems too (like the real iterations, not mini-consoles). In the past the valid reason for not doing this was because stores didn't have shelf space to carry software titles for older systems, but that's essentially a moot point today as digital distribution exists. 

The only reason the PS2 has this record is not because it was "more popular" it's because it exploited the fact that the PS3 started off horribly and was allowed to sell at a discounted price as a result for several extra years, the Switch is way ahead of the PS2 at this point in its product cycle. 

I agree with this, ps2 wasnt That populair against the gamecube and xbox, i mean combine those 2 and ps2 still had a pacman against it.

O...

Wait.....

GameCube and XBox are irrelevant. 

Switch is kicking the PS2's ass after 8 years worth of sales, that's not a small sample size. The only reason this is even a race is because the PS2 needed several extra years which it got because Sony was incompetent and botched the PS3 launch, so PS2 got to sell for extra years at a discounted bargain bin price.

If Switch 1 is afforded the same luxury, it would easily pass 160 and probably even 165 million. It's not a matter of whether or not the system can do it or not, it's about whether it will allowed to do it or not. 



Soundwave said:
xl-klaudkil said:

I agree with this, ps2 wasnt That populair against the gamecube and xbox, i mean combine those 2 and ps2 still had a pacman against it.

O...

Wait.....

GameCube and XBox are irrelevant. 

Switch is kicking the PS2's ass after 8 years worth of sales, that's not a small sample size. The only reason this is even a race is because the PS2 needed several extra years which it got because Sony was incompetent and botched the PS3 launch, so PS2 got to sell for extra years at a discounted bargain bin price.

If Switch 1 is afforded the same luxury, it would easily pass 160 and probably even 165 million. It's not a matter of whether or not the system can do it or not, it's about whether it will allowed to do it or not. 

Let's not start these petty arguments and trying to discredit. It could easily be said Switch 1 was afforded it's own luxury of not getting a successor for over 8 years and that's the only reason it's sold this much. If PS2 had that it would have done even better too. Going down this tangent is silly.

Let's not discredit any of these systems with rhetoric like this.



Zippy6 said:
Soundwave said:

GameCube and XBox are irrelevant. 

Switch is kicking the PS2's ass after 8 years worth of sales, that's not a small sample size. The only reason this is even a race is because the PS2 needed several extra years which it got because Sony was incompetent and botched the PS3 launch, so PS2 got to sell for extra years at a discounted bargain bin price.

If Switch 1 is afforded the same luxury, it would easily pass 160 and probably even 165 million. It's not a matter of whether or not the system can do it or not, it's about whether it will allowed to do it or not. 

Let's not start these petty arguments and trying to discredit. It could easily be said Switch 1 was afforded it's own luxury of not getting a successor for over 8 years and that's the only reason it's sold this much. If PS2 had that it would have done even better too. Going down this tangent is silly.

Let's not discredit any of these systems with rhetoric like this.

And lets not forget a bigger  gaming industy/ covid that made switch sell crazy.

Facts matter

And there is a big possibility ps2 will remain the king of consoles in terms of unit sales.

It cant be beaten in any other subject thou.



 

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CourageTCD said:

What if the Switch 2 get its price increased next year? Do you think this can give some extra life for the Switch 1? Enough for it to reach 160m

it might.  But keep in mind that the Switch 1 prices has also increased... which should have made the Switch 2 more appealing.  So maybe if it is combined with a Switch 1 pricecut but I'm not sure Nintendo wants to do that.  I think the Switch has just saturated the market and that makes perfect sense.  It was successful.  More than any other device it benefited from COVID and the other console shortages.  But now everyone has at leat one Switch.  Getting to 160 is kinda pointless as it doesn't serve Nintendo any other purpose.  it will be another year or two (or longer) just to match the Nintendo DS.  



I would encourage Nintendo fans to not be so distracted by the PS2 that they can't see just how great the Switch did.



Ashadelo said:

This generation is unlike any before it. Power doesn't matter for most games gamers play today. Arguing from a raw power standpoint is pointless. Nintendo historically cut systems short to compete with Sony's power leaps which cut short a lot of Nintendos systems potential selling power.

GBA → Killed by PSP
DS → Killed by Vita
Wii U & 3DS → Forced drastic pivot, launching Switch midway through their cycles

But gaming has fundamentally changed in the last decade. Nintendo could've delayed Switch 2 by 1+ years—original Switch would've kept selling strong. No need to halt production anytime soon. They could pump out Switch Lites for another 5 years and they would still sell. The industry is in uncharted waters: Top-selling games don't need PS5 power. Check Steam (or any platform's top 100 weekly charts):How many released in the last 5 years?
Last 10 years?

Why are devs still cranking out PS4-level hits?

Bottom line: Every bet against original Switch has been dead wrong. Nintendo can now produce Switch 1 alongside Switch 2—they'll both sell. (Bundles or price cuts will juice numbers further.) Unlike Xbox/Sony, Nintendo isn't rushed by a "power arms race. "Switch 1 hits 160M+. Only wildcard: global RAM shortages.

I think the GBA was killed by the DS, not the PSP



Zippy6 said:
Soundwave said:

GameCube and XBox are irrelevant. 

Switch is kicking the PS2's ass after 8 years worth of sales, that's not a small sample size. The only reason this is even a race is because the PS2 needed several extra years which it got because Sony was incompetent and botched the PS3 launch, so PS2 got to sell for extra years at a discounted bargain bin price.

If Switch 1 is afforded the same luxury, it would easily pass 160 and probably even 165 million. It's not a matter of whether or not the system can do it or not, it's about whether it will allowed to do it or not. 

Let's not start these petty arguments and trying to discredit. It could easily be said Switch 1 was afforded it's own luxury of not getting a successor for over 8 years and that's the only reason it's sold this much. If PS2 had that it would have done even better too. Going down this tangent is silly.

Let's not discredit any of these systems with rhetoric like this.

I am discrediting the PS2. There's no law that says I can't or no one is allowed to look at any context or apply any critical thinking skills to this topic. 

Everyone and their grandma knows full well the Switch would easily pass this number if Nintendo wanted to discount the system to a budget price and continue to sell it for a few more years. Anyone seriously want to dispute that? The Switch has outsold the PS2 by a large amount through 8 years and would continue to do so for another few years if allowed to do so. 

Like I'm sorry but this idea of "shhhh!!!! you're not allowed to say that out loud though!!!" is silly. I'm saying it because it's true. 

Last edited by Soundwave - on 23 December 2025

Soundwave said:
Zippy6 said:

Let's not start these petty arguments and trying to discredit. It could easily be said Switch 1 was afforded it's own luxury of not getting a successor for over 8 years and that's the only reason it's sold this much. If PS2 had that it would have done even better too. Going down this tangent is silly.

Let's not discredit any of these systems with rhetoric like this.

I am discrediting the PS2. There's no law that says I can't or no one is allowed to look at any context or apply any critical thinking skills to this topic. 

Everyone and their grandma knows full well the Switch would easily pass this number if Nintendo wanted to discount the system to a budget price and continue to sell it for a few more years. Anyone seriously want to dispute that? The Switch has outsold the PS2 by a large amount through 8 years and would continue to do so for another few years if allowed to do so. 

Like I'm sorry but this idea of "shhhh!!!! you're not allowed to say that out loud though!!!" is silly. I'm saying it because it's true. 

If you want to start talking hypothetical and contributing factors and the topic to devolve into:

"If Switch didn't wait 8 years for successor DS would have easily beaten it!"

"If PS2 didn't have a dvd player!"

"If we take the higher price into account!"

"What about inflation?"

"If it weren't for COVID!"

"The world population is much bigger now!"

"The gaming industry is bigger now!'

"The economy is bad no one has money!"

"Mobile gaming hurt it's sales!"

The thread will just become an endless debate with people discrediting the sales of systems and using various factors to try and put their console in the lead and paint their systems sales as more impressive. Because there's many angles to discredit what the Switch, or any other system has done in the same way you're trying to discredit the PS2.

Ain't no one gonna be happy if the thread goes down this direction.