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Kakadu18 said:
Chrkeller said:

Switch is cooling off, which is expected. It will pass ps1 but not ps2. Still a major success. It will top out around 125 million.

This is this week's hot take.

Apparently.  If I am wrong, no big deal.  I do think sales will cool hardcore this year and next year even more so.  I don't think the extrapolation will pan out the way people think it will.

And for the record I am primarily a Nintendo gamer.  I love the Switch, my favorite console to date.  But I do think saturation is coming hard and fast.  



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Kneetos said:

Yes there is no cliff, just the downwards slope, I believe the switch will sell more in japan  2022 then the ps5 will sell lifetime in japan by the end of 2022, there are still a lot of games that are coming to playstation that usually do well

I bet my butt that dragon quest 12 will be on playstaion and sell better due to being timed exclusive

2022 sales:

That's such a weird prediction to make. Switch 2022 Japan sales have a good chance of doubling PS5 lifetime thru 2022 Japan sales. To predict it will merely outsell it is so a weird thing to say. Like of course it will, ytd Switch sales will pass PS5 lifetime to date sales probably around July, and destroy it over the holidays. This is about as bold a prediction as saying PS5 2022 Japan sales will surpass XBSeries lifetime to date sales by end of the year lol

DQ12:

It would be very bizarre if it was a timed exclusive for playstation. In Japan, the game would obviously get most of its sales from Switch. Japan software sales of PS4 are dead and software sales on PS5 after over a year have never gotten of life support. Switch sweeps like top 30 like it's a matter of routine these days. In other areas of the world maybe a PS4/PS5 sales combo would get more sales but overall globally it might be an even split. It'd make no sense to make it a timed exclusive, either for Switch or Playstation. 



refutableport said:

Had it not been for the OLED model, the Switch could have been doing Wii fifth year numbers right now. Maybe next year they will release OLED Lite to stop the bleeding but the PS5 supply situation might improve by then and we could see a PS3-like resurgence that we saw once FFXIII released.

based on what? what data support your claim?



Kneetos said:
The_Liquid_Laser said:

The fact that some people are still talking about a Switch cliff, in a Famitsu thread, is actually pretty hilarious at this point.  Folks, the Switch cliff is never coming. That is doubly true in Japan.  Expect gradual YoY hardware drops every year until they stop production.  What other system are actual gamers going to buy going forward?  There are several weeks where 30/30 games on the Famitsu charts are on the Switch.  Not only does Switch get the best selling first party games.  It also gets the best selling third party games. If a gamer wants to play anything in Japan, then they are going to need to buy a Switch. 

Seriously, what other system are actual gamers going to buy?  When Playstation does have charting software, it is usually PS4.  Let's see how Switch and PS4 hardware sold this week:

NSW 94,523
PS4  17

Nope, I don't think people will be buying PS4's in the coming years.  What about the PS5 though?  Well, software sales on PS5 are more pathetic than for any Sony or Nintendo system, ever.  When a Japanese gamer actually wants to play a game, it's going to be on Switch.  That is true this year, and it's going to be true every year until Switch 2 releases.  Here, let me really spell it out for you:

M-O-N-O-P-O-L-Y

There's only one real choice for a video game system in Japan.  That's why it's silly to think that Switch is going to fall off a cliff.  What else are they going to buy?

While I agree with your post, it's not entirely true.

Yes there is no cliff, just the downwards slope, I believe the switch will sell more in japan  2022 then the ps5 will sell lifetime in japan by the end of 2022, there are still a lot of games that are coming to playstation that usually do well

The atelier games, almost everything by Squeenix, the trials of cold steel and ys games retain a timed exclusivity, senran kagura and the nepu games, I bet my butt that dragon quest 12 will be on playstaion and sell better due to being timed exclusive and let's not forget about elden ring and future monster hunter games, resi evil, devil may cry and visual novels do quite well.

Like I kept telling the Sony fans who were hellbent on spreading the rumour that the switch was a failed console that will sell less then the wii u. Let's not count Sony out juuuuuust yet

I don't think the Atelier games have had timed exclusivity in years:

Atelier Lulua: The Scion of Arland

Nintendo Switch
PlayStation 4
Microsoft Windows
JP: 2019-03-20NA: 2019-05-21EU: 2019-05-24

Atelier Ryza: Ever Darkness & the Secret Hideout

Release
  • JP: September 26, 2019 (Switch, PS4)
  • NA: October 29, 2019
  • WW: November 1, 2019

Atelier Ryza 2: Lost Legends & the Secret Fairy

Platform(s)
  • Nintendo Switch
  • PlayStation 4
  • PlayStation 5
  • Microsoft Windows
Release
  • JP: Consoles: December 3, 2020
  • WW: January 26, 2021

Atelier Sophie 2: The Alchemist of the Mysterious Dream 

Nintendo Switch
PlayStation 4
Microsoft Windows
JP: 2022-02-24WW: 2022-02-25

Atelier Ryza 2 was announced as getting a PS5 release, but I couldn't find any evidence of a retail version actually ever releasing.  So, I think the only way to play it on PS5 is from the PS4 copy or the digital PS4 version in the PlayStation Store that is listed as PS4/PS5?  There was no announcement at all of the upcoming Atelier Sophie 2 game getting a PS5 release.  So, that will probably be handled the same way?  Which is somewhat telling in itself that they still see a physical release on a platform that will probably be discontinued sooner rather than later as more viable than releasing on the PS5 which is already in its 2nd year on the market and therefore where you would normally want to shift your audience over to.



Splatoon 2 alone has the chance to push 2022 sales above 2021 in Japan, if it will be released in spring/summer.

If we really see a new Mario Kart for Switch this or next year, I can see Switch outselling PS2/DS.



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siebensus4 said:

Splatoon 2 alone has the chance to push 2022 sales above 2021 in Japan, if it will be released in spring/summer.

If we really see a new Mario Kart for Switch this or next year, I can see Switch outselling PS2/DS.

Perhaps.  I feel like those who interested in those games likely already have a switch.  Hopefully I'm wrong.  More sales the better. 



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Switch is the number 4 best selling video game console in Japan. It will pass the 3DS halfway through this year and be at #3 so Only the Gameboy and the DS will remain above it.



Kakadu18 said:
Kneetos said:

While I agree with your post, it's not entirely true.

Yes there is no cliff, just the downwards slope, I believe the switch will sell more in japan  2022 then the ps5 will sell lifetime in japan by the end of 2022, there are still a lot of games that are coming to playstation that usually do well

The atelier games, almost everything by Squeenix, the trials of cold steel and ys games retain a timed exclusivity, senran kagura and the nepu games, I bet my butt that dragon quest 12 will be on playstaion and sell better due to being timed exclusive and let's not forget about elden ring and future monster hunter games, resi evil, devil may cry and visual novels do quite well.

Like I kept telling the Sony fans who were hellbent on spreading the rumour that the switch was a failed console that will sell less then the wii u. Let's not count Sony out juuuuuust yet

Excuse me? The Atelier games have been releasing day one on the Switch for several years now and after Ryza 2 almost didn't sell anything on PS5 they scrapped the PS5 version for Atelier Sophie 2. No timed exclusivity lol.

And why would Horii be so dumb to not release DQ XII on Switch day one? DQ XI is still charting on the Switch.

I ment the timed exclusivity was more for trials games and ys, sorry for the confusion there.

Dragon quest 12 I would imagine would be for the switch successor, so my thought behined that was that it would be late to the swith depending on when the dev team get development kits for the next gen nintendo system, which may cause it to be delayed on that system if they get it late



Mandalore76 said:
Kneetos said:

While I agree with your post, it's not entirely true.

Yes there is no cliff, just the downwards slope, I believe the switch will sell more in japan  2022 then the ps5 will sell lifetime in japan by the end of 2022, there are still a lot of games that are coming to playstation that usually do well

The atelier games, almost everything by Squeenix, the trials of cold steel and ys games retain a timed exclusivity, senran kagura and the nepu games, I bet my butt that dragon quest 12 will be on playstaion and sell better due to being timed exclusive and let's not forget about elden ring and future monster hunter games, resi evil, devil may cry and visual novels do quite well.

Like I kept telling the Sony fans who were hellbent on spreading the rumour that the switch was a failed console that will sell less then the wii u. Let's not count Sony out juuuuuust yet

I don't think the Atelier games have had timed exclusivity in years:

Atelier Lulua: The Scion of Arland

Nintendo Switch
PlayStation 4
Microsoft Windows
JP: 2019-03-20NA: 2019-05-21EU: 2019-05-24

Atelier Ryza: Ever Darkness & the Secret Hideout

Release
  • JP: September 26, 2019 (Switch, PS4)
  • NA: October 29, 2019
  • WW: November 1, 2019

Atelier Ryza 2: Lost Legends & the Secret Fairy

Platform(s)
  • Nintendo Switch
  • PlayStation 4
  • PlayStation 5
  • Microsoft Windows
Release
  • JP: Consoles: December 3, 2020
  • WW: January 26, 2021

Atelier Sophie 2: The Alchemist of the Mysterious Dream 

Nintendo Switch
PlayStation 4
Microsoft Windows
JP: 2022-02-24WW: 2022-02-25

Atelier Ryza 2 was announced as getting a PS5 release, but I couldn't find any evidence of a retail version actually ever releasing.  So, I think the only way to play it on PS5 is from the PS4 copy or the digital PS4 version in the PlayStation Store that is listed as PS4/PS5?  There was no announcement at all of the upcoming Atelier Sophie 2 game getting a PS5 release.  So, that will probably be handled the same way?  Which is somewhat telling in itself that they still see a physical release on a platform that will probably be discontinued sooner rather than later as more viable than releasing on the PS5 which is already in its 2nd year on the market and therefore where you would normally want to shift your audience over to.

Actually already Atelier Lydie & Suelle in 2017 had a simultaneous release on PSV, PS4 and Switch.



Kneetos said:
Kakadu18 said:

Excuse me? The Atelier games have been releasing day one on the Switch for several years now and after Ryza 2 almost didn't sell anything on PS5 they scrapped the PS5 version for Atelier Sophie 2. No timed exclusivity lol.

And why would Horii be so dumb to not release DQ XII on Switch day one? DQ XI is still charting on the Switch.

I ment the timed exclusivity was more for trials games and ys, sorry for the confusion there.

Dragon quest 12 I would imagine would be for the switch successor, so my thought behined that was that it would be late to the swith depending on when the dev team get development kits for the next gen nintendo system, which may cause it to be delayed on that system if they get it late

Ok, we'll see about Dragon Quest.