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I think Microsoft is done with the acquisitions for the time being. Right now they have a strong enough case to not being a monopolistic enterprise that they will probably not run into anti trust problems.

If they go out and announce another major acquisition in 6 months that will blow that case up entirely, and the government probably would intervene. They need a several year cooling off period before they go spending again



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aTokenYeti said:

I think Microsoft is done with the acquisitions for the time being. Right now they have a strong enough case to not being a monopolistic enterprise that they will probably not run into anti trust problems.

If they go out and announce another major acquisition in 6 months that will blow that case up entirely, and the government probably would intervene. They need a several year cooling off period before they go spending again

I'm guessing nothing Major , just small ones like IOI interactive is fine I think? They are making Project Dragon exclusive to Xbox, and they make the Hitman series.



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SegaHeart said:
aTokenYeti said:

I think Microsoft is done with the acquisitions for the time being. Right now they have a strong enough case to not being a monopolistic enterprise that they will probably not run into anti trust problems.

If they go out and announce another major acquisition in 6 months that will blow that case up entirely, and the government probably would intervene. They need a several year cooling off period before they go spending again

I'm guessing nothing Major , just small ones like IOI interactive is fine I think? They are making Project Dragon exclusive to Xbox, and they make the Hitman series.

Depends on if someone else forces their hand. If others with deep enough pockets go bidding on stuff that XB wants, they won't have much choice but to outbid or lose that option.

MS can likely buy quite a bit more before they seriously have to worry about lawsuits and the Gov becoming an issue, depending on what they bought.



SegaHeart said:
aTokenYeti said:

I think Microsoft is done with the acquisitions for the time being. Right now they have a strong enough case to not being a monopolistic enterprise that they will probably not run into anti trust problems.

If they go out and announce another major acquisition in 6 months that will blow that case up entirely, and the government probably would intervene. They need a several year cooling off period before they go spending again

I'm guessing nothing Major , just small ones like IOI interactive is fine I think? They are making Project Dragon exclusive to Xbox, and they make the Hitman series.

I think individual studios like that are still probably on the table but publisher level stuff is probably over for a long time. 

In terms of competition for future acquisitions, I think Sony needs to worry more about Meta or Amazon trying to break in now, more so than Microsoft continuing to spend. Tencent and Embracer are also others to watch out for. 



aTokenYeti said:
SegaHeart said:

I'm guessing nothing Major , just small ones like IOI interactive is fine I think? They are making Project Dragon exclusive to Xbox, and they make the Hitman series.

I think individual studios like that are still probably on the table but publisher level stuff is probably over for a long time. 

In terms of competition for future acquisitions, I think Sony needs to worry more about Meta or Amazon trying to break in now, more so than Microsoft continuing to spend. Tencent and Embracer are also others to watch out for. 

What's Meta?



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SegaHeart said:
aTokenYeti said:

I think individual studios like that are still probably on the table but publisher level stuff is probably over for a long time. 

In terms of competition for future acquisitions, I think Sony needs to worry more about Meta or Amazon trying to break in now, more so than Microsoft continuing to spend. Tencent and Embracer are also others to watch out for. 

What's Meta?

It’s what Facebook renamed their company to. They renamed to “Meta” because they feel the “metaverse” is the future, and based on their statements video games and VR seem to be a critical component of that. 

the “metaverse” all seems silly to me but they clearly want IP and technology 



Imaginedvl said:

As of now even with Activision, Microsoft is not even close to monopolization so not sure why there is even talk about it.
Tencent and Sony are still on top (revenue wise).

While it will most likely change for Sony this generation, Tencent is way ahead.

Also to the OP, Sony by themselves will not be able to compete at some point, that's for sure. But I expect one of the big one to buy Sony (Apple or Amazon).
This would be the best outcome.

A merger with EA or another big publisher can also be good. But Sony cannot acquire them, it is just physical at this point :) 
What Microsoft just payed for Activision, is half of the whole market cap of Sony.. I mean :)

Sony's worth is closer to 200 Billion, they have a lot of assets, according to numbers from Japan, last year's numbers that is. Microsoft or whoever would need to pay something around 300 Billion if the acquisition of Activision is anything to go by.

So yes, not impossible for a couple of the trillion dollar companies, but certainly not easy, not even for the likes of Apple/Amazon/Microsoft/Google.



aTokenYeti said:
SegaHeart said:

What's Meta?

It’s what Facebook renamed their company to. They renamed to “Meta” because they feel the “metaverse” is the future, and based on their statements video games and VR seem to be a critical component of that. 

the “metaverse” all seems silly to me but they clearly want IP and technology 

Ok , will look into it more.



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As far as monopolization is concerned, MS isn't actually very close at this point. MS could purchase another large publisher without much concern. Whether or not Sony buys a publisher doesn't matter as to whether MS is a monopoly. Also, there are far closer things to a monopoly, such as Alphabet with search engines.

However, we are starting to get dangerously close to the beginnings of an oligopoly. This is very common with other products to begin with, and there are relatively few laws that prevent it and even less that are taken seriously. With the precedent set, Amazon, Google, and/or Apple absolutely will be stepping in to buy up publishers. And I'd be willing to bet they'll buy up a console manufacturer too. The majority of all publishing will likely be done buy three companies in the future, all acting under different labels to give us the illusion of choice. It's not a good look IMO



bubblegamer said:
Imaginedvl said:

As of now even with Activision, Microsoft is not even close to monopolization so not sure why there is even talk about it.
Tencent and Sony are still on top (revenue wise).

While it will most likely change for Sony this generation, Tencent is way ahead.

Also to the OP, Sony by themselves will not be able to compete at some point, that's for sure. But I expect one of the big one to buy Sony (Apple or Amazon).
This would be the best outcome.

A merger with EA or another big publisher can also be good. But Sony cannot acquire them, it is just physical at this point :) 
What Microsoft just payed for Activision, is half of the whole market cap of Sony.. I mean :)

Sony's worth is closer to 200 Billion, they have a lot of assets, according to numbers from Japan, last year's numbers that is. Microsoft or whoever would need to pay something around 300 Billion if the acquisition of Activision is anything to go by.

So yes, not impossible for a couple of the trillion dollar companies, but certainly not easy, not even for the likes of Apple/Amazon/Microsoft/Google.

oh yah :) Acquiring Sony would not be an easy one, I agree. I think we should look at this more like a "merger" at this level; more than an acquisition per say.
I really believe Apple-Sony would make a great team, I'm not sure why people seem to see this as a bad thing :) 

I'm personnaly not a fan of Apple products. But as a company, they are doing a lot of things right and Sony does too. Both working together would be a monster in the gaming industry.

Play Station Six with Apple silicon! (this is a silly joke, keep your pants on people...)

Last edited by Imaginedvl - on 20 January 2022