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Forums - Microsoft Discussion - I think if Microsoft acquires another Major developer before Sony again , there might be an anti trust blockage in a way?

The thing here people aren't considering is what the alternative is. If these big American companies want to be bought out, and you either have

Microsoft buying them, getting closer to a monopoly.

Or

Embracer/Tencent/Sony buying them

I think they will favor, in the American government, approving am American company getting closer to a monopoly than they will want these companies to become foreign owned.



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There should be some anti-monopoly action, but they are going to get away with it, since they still have some major competition from companies like Sony, Nintendo, Apple and Google (Activision was a mobile giant, so now MS is). They can point out they still have a bigger chunk of the gaming pie and say they are not doing anything illegal.

And no, I don't want Nintendo or Sony to buy other big studios either. Just let 3rd parties be 3rd parties, we get a healthier gaming market that way.



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Imaginedvl said:
bubblegamer said:

Sony's worth is closer to 200 Billion, they have a lot of assets, according to numbers from Japan, last year's numbers that is. Microsoft or whoever would need to pay something around 300 Billion if the acquisition of Activision is anything to go by.

So yes, not impossible for a couple of the trillion dollar companies, but certainly not easy, not even for the likes of Apple/Amazon/Microsoft/Google.

oh yah :) Acquiring Sony would not be an easy one, I agree. I think we should look at this more like a "merger" at this level; more than an acquisition per say.
I really believe Apple-Sony would make a great team, I'm not sure why people seem to see this as a bad thing :) 

I'm personnaly not a fan of Apple products. But as a company, they are doing a lot of things right and Sony does too. Both working together would be a monster in the gaming industry.

Play Station Six with Apple silicon! (this is a silly joke, keep your pants on people...)

Not if we are going to be expected to pay €1000 or more for the Apple iPS6 with lesser hardware then its competition.



Imaginedvl said:

As of now even with Activision, Microsoft is not even close to monopolization so not sure why there is even talk about it.
Tencent and Sony are still on top (revenue wise).

While it will most likely change for Sony this generation, Tencent is way ahead.

Also to the OP, Sony by themselves will not be able to compete at some point, that's for sure. But I expect one of the big one to buy Sony (Apple or Amazon).
This would be the best outcome.

A merger with EA or another big publisher can also be good. But Sony cannot acquire them, it is just physical at this point :) 
What Microsoft just payed for Activision, is half of the whole market cap of Sony.. I mean :)

Nintendo manages to compete by doing their own thing. No reason Sony can’t end-up competing the same way. 

Yes, this is huge, but people are way too hasty bringing up these doom and gloom scenarios. 

Sony will have to double up on their strengths, which is building a compelling exclusive catalogue of highly polished and critically well received titles, push technologies, and focus on the gamer’s experience first. 

Now, it’s funny how the ones who constantly whined and criticized Sony for money-hatting exclusives are nowhere to be found now. It’s ok for MS to flash its money, but when Sony does it? … Yeah, they so evil and arrogant.



Hynad said:
Imaginedvl said:

As of now even with Activision, Microsoft is not even close to monopolization so not sure why there is even talk about it.
Tencent and Sony are still on top (revenue wise).

While it will most likely change for Sony this generation, Tencent is way ahead.

Also to the OP, Sony by themselves will not be able to compete at some point, that's for sure. But I expect one of the big one to buy Sony (Apple or Amazon).
This would be the best outcome.

A merger with EA or another big publisher can also be good. But Sony cannot acquire them, it is just physical at this point :) 
What Microsoft just payed for Activision, is half of the whole market cap of Sony.. I mean :)

Now, it’s funny how the ones who constantly whined and criticized Sony for money-hatting exclusives are nowhere to be found now. It’s ok for MS to flash its money, but when Sony does it? … Yeah, they so evil and arrogant.

You okay? From what in my post are you coming up with that lol

Also, and you can look at my history, but I never-ever critized Sony for that (other than having to use their controller when the game in only available on my Play Station, which I'm not a big fan of)... I do not care about them paying for exclusives and I understand why any company would do that. (same goes for Microsoft, I have no problem them acquiring studios or paying for exclusives). I think you are mixing up things just cause of my avatar.

It sucks when any game is not available to me, that would be the extrend of it lol, but I have both console and always had... So yah, not sure what is going on in your head :)

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zero129 said:
Imaginedvl said:

oh yah :) Acquiring Sony would not be an easy one, I agree. I think we should look at this more like a "merger" at this level; more than an acquisition per say.
I really believe Apple-Sony would make a great team, I'm not sure why people seem to see this as a bad thing :) 

I'm personnaly not a fan of Apple products. But as a company, they are doing a lot of things right and Sony does too. Both working together would be a monster in the gaming industry.

Play Station Six with Apple silicon! (this is a silly joke, keep your pants on people...)

Not if we are going to be expected to pay €1000 or more for the Apple iPS6 with lesser hardware then its competition.

Yah :) That will suck for the gamers! At the end they will sell it tho! 

Apple iPS6 ahah! 



Imaginedvl said:
Hynad said:

Now, it’s funny how the ones who constantly whined and criticized Sony for money-hatting exclusives are nowhere to be found now. It’s ok for MS to flash its money, but when Sony does it? … Yeah, they so evil and arrogant.

You okay? From what in my post are you coming up with that lol

Also, and you can look at my history, but I never-ever critized Sony for that (other than having to use their controller when the game in only available on my Play Station, which I'm not a big fan of)... I do not care about them paying for exclusives and I understand why any company would do that. (same goes for Microsoft, I have no problem them acquiring studios or paying for exclusives). I think you are mixing up things just cause of my avatar.

It sucks when any game is not available to me, that would be the extrend of it lol, but I have both console and always had... So yah, not sure what is going on in your head :)

It was a general comment about the situation on the site. Not directed at you specifically.



Imaginedvl said:
zero129 said:

Not if we are going to be expected to pay €1000 or more for the Apple iPS6 with lesser hardware then its competition.

Yah :) That will suck for the gamers! At the end they will sell it tho! 

Apple iPS6 ahah! 

People would defo buy it alright just look at their phones xD.

I could expect the press conference to be something like

"we at Apple believe in innovation in everything we do, thats why we are entering the game market after buying Sony.

I would like to unveil the New Apple iPS6, It is a 12TF powerhouse, thats right we have added a whole 2TF to the PS5's power. We also didnt really think the DualSense was right for our apple gamers so our new controller is called the PSiTouch with no buttons and full touchscreen so if your switching from phone gaming to our console gaming the experience will feel natural and an extension of what we have already build PSiTouch controllers will retail for €200 if you want to play local multi player games. The base iPS6 will cost a simple €900, However the Base system wont come with a power connector as no normal one can power this machine, so you will have to buy our iPS Lighting power connector for €50.

But wait!.. It doesnt stop there as we at Apple believe in giving our gamers choice, thats why we will also be releasing the iPS6 Pro (12.5TF €1100) and iPS6 Pro Max (13TF €1300 Includes power connector) . We cant wait for gamers to rush out and buy the iPS6 line of systems."



Hynad said:

Now, it’s funny how the ones who constantly whined and criticized Sony for money-hatting exclusives are nowhere to be found now. It’s ok for MS to flash its money, but when Sony does it? … Yeah, they so evil and arrogant.

One difference is gamers gain absolutely nothing from these moneyhat deals. You're basically celebrating a corporation paying big bucks so others can't play the game, while you were always going to be able to play it anyway.

Now Microsoft is at least offering these games for good value in Game Pass, while also making them available on PC and xCloud. 



I don't know about approaching anti-trust issues, because in terms of revenue, this apparently still doesn't put MS above Sony. But I don't know if they're judging those situations by revenue anyway.

Though from a consumer standpoint, I don't think it's a good sign for any industry when a Disney situation starts unfolding.
That said, I don't think a lack of Activision Blizzard titles on Playstation will even be enough to pressure them into letting Gamepas on PS5.
Playstation still has a strong casual appeal, both with multiplats like Fifa and GTA, to exclusives like Spiderman. And they can always focus on more of the latter if needed.

The "I think Sony will be forced to sell" after two days before we've seen a single game leave the platform and what potential effect it may have, which is years from now at the earliest, just comes off as disingenuous. Like every other "X-company is doomed" comment before it.

Last edited by Hiku - on 20 January 2022