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Forums - Sales Discussion - Famitsu sales: Week 50, 2021 - (6th Dec - 12th Dec)

ShadowLink93 said:
RolStoppable said:

2021 below 200k, so even a reduced full year target of 5.7m is in danger now.

Considering the global scale, the bits and pieces of sales data we've received from other continents point to global shipments being lower during the holiday quarter than a year ago, likely in the area of of minus 10%, so the shipment breakdown for Nintendo's fiscal Q3 and Q4 should end up being 10.0-10.5m and 5.0-5.5m, respectively.

Week 2020 Weekly 2020 Cumulative 2021 Weekly 2021 Cumulative Difference Weekly Difference Cumulative
1 284.827 284.827 312.121 312.121 27.294 27.294
2 116.301 401.128 167.596 479.717 51.295 78.589
3 96.458 497.586 170.691 650.408 74.233 152.822
4 67.987 565.573 110.811 761.219 42.824 195.646
5 75.922 641.495 114.170 875.389 38.248 233.894
6 100.961 741.456 88.485 963.874 -12.476 222.418
7 80.312 821.948 109.615 1.073.489 29.303 251.541
8 41.490 863.258 74.298 1.147.787 32.808 284.529
9 53.098 916.356 78.049 1.225.836 24.951 309.480
10 50.585 967.941 89.827 1.315.663 39.242 347.722
11 57.274 1.025.215 72.610 1.388.373 15.336 363.158
12 392.576 1.417.791 89.104 1.477.477 -303.472 59.686
13 282.561 1.700.352 267.497 1.744.974 -15.064 44.622
14 154.640 1.854.992 135.076 1.880.050 -19.564 25.058
15 25.313 1.880.305 96.259 1.976.309 70.946 96.004
16 27.874 1.908.179 94.057 2.070.366 66.183 162.187
17 107.104 2.015.284 105.833 2.176.199 -1.271 160.915
18 115.042 2.130.326 165.268 2.341.467 50.226 211.141
19 42.420 2.172.746 70.760 2.412.227 28.340 239.481
20 38.380 2.211.126 95.411 2.507.638 57.031 296.512
21 52.557 2.263.683 99.118 2.606.756 46.561 343.073
22 107.593 2.371.276 71.148 2.677.904 -36.445 306.628
23 68.192 2.439.468 97.208 2.775.112 29.016 335.644
24 55.187 2.494.655 78.317 2.853.429 23.130 358.774
25 78.428 2.573.083 75.077 2.928.506 -3.351 355.423
26 93.799 2.666.882 72.951 3.001.457 -20.848 334.575
27 52.250 2.719.132 84.494 3.085.951 32.244 366.819
28 96.879 2.816.011 69.283 3.155.234 -27.596 339.223
29 113.197 2.929.208 64.107 3.219.341 -49.090 290.133
30 125.231 3.054.439 69.738 3.289.079 -55.493 234.640
31 86.605 3.141.044 62.865 3.351.944 -23.740 210.900
32 173.338 3.314.382 72.773 3.424.717 -100.565 110.335
33 148.699 3.463.081 89.732 3.514.449 -58.967 51.368
34 70.129 3.533.210 72.527 3.586.976 2.398 53.766
35 78.773 3.611.983 63.254 3.650.230 -15.519 38.247
36 77.611 3.689.594 60.942 3.711.172 -16.669 21.578
37 83.920 3.773.514 67.114 3.778.286 -16.806 4.772
38 110.029 3.883.543 40.068 3.818.354 -69.961 -65.189
39 70.542 3.954.085 46.297 3.864.651 -24.245 -89.434
40 91.093 4.045.178 40.463 3.905.114 -50.630 -140.064
41 108.575 4.153.753 179.851 4.084.965 71.276 -68.788
42 95.852 4.249.605 72.944 4.157.909 -22.908 -91.696
43 64.768 4.314.373 108.122 4.266.031 43.354 -48.342
44 86.985 4.401.358 74.803 4.340.834 -12.182 -60.524
45 139.200 4.540.558 90.517 4.431.351 -48.683 -109.207
46 116.267 4.656.825 87.267 4.518.618 -29.000 -138.207
47 179.143 4.835.968 167.778 4.686.396 -11.365 -149.572
48 145.178 4.981.146 122.573 4.808.969 -22.605 -172.177
49 204.622 5.185.768 202.937 5.011.906 -1.685 -173.862
50 229.698 5.415.466 192.335 5.204.241 -37.363 -211.225
51 263.304 5.678.770
52 278.173 5.956.943

Switch sold 3.00 million by week 26 so it has sold more in the first half of the year than the second half, has this happened before?

Happens all the time. I randomly picked 2014 for example.

Week 26 YTD
3DS 1.064.839
PSV 646.497
WIU 286.819
PS4 620.619
PS3 295.152
PSP 91.554
360 6.666

Week 52 YTD
3DS 3.176.525
WIU 618.150
PSV 1.168.570
PS4 970.667
PS3 459.317
XB1 43.267
360 9.816
PSP 97.724

PSP,PSV,PS3,PS4,360 all sold more in first half compared to 2nd half. Wii U was close, but I am sure it and the 3DS had a big game in the 2nd half.

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ireadtabloids said:

Animal Crossing: New Leaf/Welcome Amiibo on 3DS had the longest streak with 264 weeks in famitsu top 30. Mario Kart 8 DX seems likely to overtake it unless something very unexpected crashes sales.

Also someone mentioned Momotaro’s evergreen status. It holds the record for most weeks consecutively on top of the Japanese physical charts at 11 weeks.

Actually ACNL left the charts multiple times before W100. So it’s not, I have a list that showcases this. BotW was the number one game and would still be if the sku split was combine. MK8D is #1 now and won’t ever be broken since it’s not close to ever getting under top 20 let alone top 30



@src

PS5 NPD vs Famitsu

March
NPD: ~500K
Famitsu: 178K

September
NPD: ~400K
Famitsu: 89K

November
NPD: ~500K ?
Famitsu: 28K

Dec will be even worse, japan shipments are flat out disrespectful. Like giving 50k to japan for the holidays would dent the West that much



tbone51 said:
ireadtabloids said:

Animal Crossing: New Leaf/Welcome Amiibo on 3DS had the longest streak with 264 weeks in famitsu top 30. Mario Kart 8 DX seems likely to overtake it unless something very unexpected crashes sales.

Also someone mentioned Momotaro’s evergreen status. It holds the record for most weeks consecutively on top of the Japanese physical charts at 11 weeks.

Actually ACNL left the charts multiple times before W100. So it’s not, I have a list that showcases this. BotW was the number one game and would still be if the sku split was combine. MK8D is #1 now and won’t ever be broken since it’s not close to ever getting under top 20 let alone top 30

Thanks for that extra detail.  Kakadu gave me a bit of the history and some of the other info earlier in the chat.  Interesting to learn that BotW would still be in if the combined Switch versions were counted as one.  I was sure Zelda: BOTW dropped out for a week before the version with DLC hit the charts.



Farsala said:
ShadowLink93 said:

Switch sold 3.00 million by week 26 so it has sold more in the first half of the year than the second half, has this happened before?

Happens all the time. I randomly picked 2014 for example.

Week 26 YTD
3DS 1.064.839
PSV 646.497
WIU 286.819
PS4 620.619
PS3 295.152
PSP 91.554
360 6.666

Week 52 YTD
3DS 3.176.525
WIU 618.150
PSV 1.168.570
PS4 970.667
PS3 459.317
XB1 43.267
360 9.816
PSP 97.724

PSP,PSV,PS3,PS4,360 all sold more in first half compared to 2nd half. Wii U was close, but I am sure it and the 3DS had a big game in the 2nd half.

That's a surprise, i was assuming that with the holiday boost that the 2nd half would almost always be stronger.



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Kneetos said:

It took over 20 years for another console to take the 30/30
And in the same year the nintendo switch did it twice...

Just, wow

Three times, it did it twice in the summer plus this week. Next week will probably be the fourth time.



ShadowLink93 said:
Farsala said:

Happens all the time. I randomly picked 2014 for example.

Week 26 YTD
3DS 1.064.839
PSV 646.497
WIU 286.819
PS4 620.619
PS3 295.152
PSP 91.554
360 6.666

Week 52 YTD
3DS 3.176.525
WIU 618.150
PSV 1.168.570
PS4 970.667
PS3 459.317
XB1 43.267
360 9.816
PSP 97.724

PSP,PSV,PS3,PS4,360 all sold more in first half compared to 2nd half. Wii U was close, but I am sure it and the 3DS had a big game in the 2nd half.

That's a surprise, i was assuming that with the holiday boost that the 2nd half would almost always be stronger.

Japan's holiday weeks are more slanted compared to the west. West is BF-Christmas. While Japan holiday is more like 2nd week of December to 2nd week of January. So the holiday boost helps both halfs.



src said:
abronn627 said:

@src

Sorry, but let’s be honest here. They may be happy with hardware sales, but if everything was rainbows and unicorns they would disclosed the softwares shipments of PS4 and PS5 separately, but they lumped them together, thanks for the transparency.

So my statement is still relevant: we should ask ourselves, what’s even their strategy at this point ?

Completely wrong. PS4/5 software is mixed due to PS5 BC, which means many PS4 games do not need PS5 versions and many PS5 owners buying PS4 games.

padib said:

The low stock argument is getting a bit redundant. Perhaps Playstation is just not attracting buyers in the land of the rising sun.

Like I said last time, if stock was the real issue, we'd see software sales, at least 1 title in the top 30. But the numbers are a flat No.

Argument? Has this thread really become so delusional that they think stock problems are imaginary LMAO. Some of you guys must really hurt when you see PS5's sell out in real life.

PS5 shipment =< 16M this FY

HoangNhatAnh said:

What is really clear here: Sony hardware sales is losing to Nintendo in every market right now.

lmao

we knew this at the beginning of last year where SW was expected 24M and PS5 16M. Don't worry, PS5 should easily outsell SW next year, if TSMC can produce the chips.

That's the biggest 'IF' I've ever seen.

Last edited by Kakadu18 - on 21 December 2021

Kneetos said:

It took over 20 years for another console to take the 30/30
And in the same year the nintendo switch did it twice...

Just, wow

This is actually the third time. Last time it did it twice in a row. Next week will likely be 30/30 again.

Edit: someone already said it before me.

Last edited by Kakadu18 - on 18 December 2021

ShadowLink93 said:
RolStoppable said:

2021 below 200k, so even a reduced full year target of 5.7m is in danger now.

Considering the global scale, the bits and pieces of sales data we've received from other continents point to global shipments being lower during the holiday quarter than a year ago, likely in the area of of minus 10%, so the shipment breakdown for Nintendo's fiscal Q3 and Q4 should end up being 10.0-10.5m and 5.0-5.5m, respectively.

Week2020 Weekly2020 Cumulative2021 Weekly2021 CumulativeDifference WeeklyDifference Cumulative
1284.827284.827312.121312.12127.29427.294
2116.301401.128167.596479.71751.29578.589
396.458497.586170.691650.40874.233152.822
467.987565.573110.811761.21942.824195.646
575.922641.495114.170875.38938.248233.894
6100.961741.45688.485963.874-12.476222.418
780.312821.948109.6151.073.48929.303251.541
841.490863.25874.2981.147.78732.808284.529
953.098916.35678.0491.225.83624.951309.480
1050.585967.94189.8271.315.66339.242347.722
1157.2741.025.21572.6101.388.37315.336363.158
12392.5761.417.79189.1041.477.477-303.47259.686
13282.5611.700.352267.4971.744.974-15.06444.622
14154.6401.854.992135.0761.880.050-19.56425.058
1525.3131.880.30596.2591.976.30970.94696.004
1627.8741.908.17994.0572.070.36666.183162.187
17107.1042.015.284105.8332.176.199-1.271160.915
18115.0422.130.326165.2682.341.46750.226211.141
1942.4202.172.74670.7602.412.22728.340239.481
2038.3802.211.12695.4112.507.63857.031296.512
2152.5572.263.68399.1182.606.75646.561343.073
22107.5932.371.27671.1482.677.904-36.445306.628
2368.1922.439.46897.2082.775.11229.016335.644
2455.1872.494.65578.3172.853.42923.130358.774
2578.4282.573.08375.0772.928.506-3.351355.423
2693.7992.666.88272.9513.001.457-20.848334.575
2752.2502.719.13284.4943.085.95132.244366.819
2896.8792.816.01169.2833.155.234-27.596339.223
29113.1972.929.20864.1073.219.341-49.090290.133
30125.2313.054.43969.7383.289.079-55.493234.640
3186.6053.141.04462.8653.351.944-23.740210.900
32173.3383.314.38272.7733.424.717-100.565110.335
33148.6993.463.08189.7323.514.449-58.96751.368
3470.1293.533.21072.5273.586.9762.39853.766
3578.7733.611.98363.2543.650.230-15.51938.247
3677.6113.689.59460.9423.711.172-16.66921.578
3783.9203.773.51467.1143.778.286-16.8064.772
38110.0293.883.54340.0683.818.354-69.961-65.189
3970.5423.954.08546.2973.864.651-24.245-89.434
4091.0934.045.17840.4633.905.114-50.630-140.064
41108.5754.153.753179.8514.084.96571.276-68.788
4295.8524.249.60572.9444.157.909-22.908-91.696
4364.7684.314.373108.1224.266.03143.354-48.342
4486.9854.401.35874.8034.340.834-12.182-60.524
45139.2004.540.55890.5174.431.351-48.683-109.207
46116.2674.656.82587.2674.518.618-29.000-138.207
47179.1434.835.968167.7784.686.396-11.365-149.572
48145.1784.981.146122.5734.808.969-22.605-172.177
49204.6225.185.768202.9375.011.906-1.685-173.862
50229.6985.415.466192.3355.204.241-37.363-211.225
51263.3045.678.770
52278.1735.956.943

Switch sold 3.00 million by week 26 so it has sold more in the first half of the year than the second half, has this happened before?

This is in part because the holiday season in Japan is partially in January. Week 1 2021 was bigger than any week in December or November.