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Because gamers pay them with digital money, and Ninty shareholders and execs don't like it, they like to swim in real money like Scrooge McDuck!



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Thanks for all the replies everyone! It seems sad they don’t include digital for things like NPD because we don’t get the true reflection of where a game charts (I know it shouldn’t matter as long as I enjoy it but I’m a geek for this kinda thing and I love seeing my favs do well haha).



Alby_da_Wolf said:

Because gamers pay them with digital money, and Ninty shareholders and execs don't like it, they like to swim in real money like Scrooge McDuck!

But Switch prints bitcoins.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

Does Nintendo provide the physical/digital sales split in their financial reports?



Majora said:

Thanks for all the replies everyone! It seems sad they don’t include digital for things like NPD because we don’t get the true reflection of where a game charts (I know it shouldn’t matter as long as I enjoy it but I’m a geek for this kinda thing and I love seeing my favs do well haha).

NPD charts aren't a true reflection of software sales to begin with, because they rank games based on revenue instead of units sold.



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The_Liquid_Laser said:

My take: The NPD has never really been fair to Nintendo, so they choose not to share data with them. A lot of NPD's customers seem to be Western 3rd party companies that do not like getting upstaged in the sales charts by Nintendo. So you can see how NPD massages the data by doing things like combining all SKUs when reporting where a particular game ranks (i.e. combining all platforms). At the same time they don't combine Pokemon SKUs like Sword and Shield. They do things like this to make Western third party games seem more successful than they really are, especially compared to NIntendo games.

NPD aren't the only ones that don't get digital data though. Nobody does.



RolStoppable said:
Majora said:

Thanks for all the replies everyone! It seems sad they don’t include digital for things like NPD because we don’t get the true reflection of where a game charts (I know it shouldn’t matter as long as I enjoy it but I’m a geek for this kinda thing and I love seeing my favs do well haha).

NPD charts aren't a true reflection of software sales to begin with, because they rank games based on revenue instead of units sold.

I know it's different but from a representative standpoint, it reminds me of how having a number one record doesn't truly represent how popular a song was, like when you have a number one that sold 50k the week it reached 1 only to find out that the number 10 record a month later outsold it.

I vaguely remember reading about someone talking about the Beatles mentioning having a number 5 hit and laughing that 1-4 above it were all Beatles songs that took turns being number one, but the sales from that hit just during it's peak at no 5 sold double what that years biggest non Beatles number 1 sold during it's entire chart run.



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Kakadu18 said:
The_Liquid_Laser said:

My take: The NPD has never really been fair to Nintendo, so they choose not to share data with them. A lot of NPD's customers seem to be Western 3rd party companies that do not like getting upstaged in the sales charts by Nintendo. So you can see how NPD massages the data by doing things like combining all SKUs when reporting where a particular game ranks (i.e. combining all platforms). At the same time they don't combine Pokemon SKUs like Sword and Shield. They do things like this to make Western third party games seem more successful than they really are, especially compared to NIntendo games.

NPD aren't the only ones that don't get digital data though. Nobody does.

Famitsu doesn't include digital sales on anything.  That makes its report consistent.  The problem I have with NPD is the inconsistency of their software rankings.



The_Liquid_Laser said:
Kakadu18 said:

NPD aren't the only ones that don't get digital data though. Nobody does.

Famitsu doesn't include digital sales on anything.  That makes its report consistent.  The problem I have with NPD is the inconsistency of their software rankings.

Possibly because some companies reveal their digital sales and others don't so they can only release what they have received of digital sales. So is they being unfair to Nintendo or Nintendo isn't telling them the data that other companies tell?



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

DonFerrari said:
The_Liquid_Laser said:

Famitsu doesn't include digital sales on anything.  That makes its report consistent.  The problem I have with NPD is the inconsistency of their software rankings.

Possibly because some companies reveal their digital sales and others don't so they can only release what they have received of digital sales. So is they being unfair to Nintendo or Nintendo isn't telling them the data that other companies tell?

It's not about being fair.  It's about actually reporting consistently, which the NPD does not do.