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Nintendo does give some decent sales numbers at their quarterly reports, but yeah, everything in between is basically just guessing.

Gotta wait until February for those juicy Metroid Dread numbers...




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The_Liquid_Laser said:
DonFerrari said:

Possibly because some companies reveal their digital sales and others don't so they can only release what they have received of digital sales. So is they being unfair to Nintendo or Nintendo isn't telling them the data that other companies tell?

It's not about being fair.  It's about actually reporting consistently, which the NPD does not do.

They are consistent on reporting the numbers they have. And was you or someone else here that was saying they aren't fair to nintendo.

Yes it was you in this very thread. Seems like you aren't being consistent yourself.

https://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9328867



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

DonFerrari said:
The_Liquid_Laser said:

It's not about being fair.  It's about actually reporting consistently, which the NPD does not do.

They are consistent on reporting the numbers they have. And was you or someone else here that was saying they aren't fair to nintendo.

Yes it was you in this very thread. Seems like you aren't being consistent yourself.

https://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9328867

Go to the actual post you were responding to.  I was comparing NPD to Famitsu.  Famitsu's reports are consistent.  NPD's are not.  Also Famitsu actually reports numbers for software and hardware.  NPD does not.  NPD's report is basically trash.  It is not useful in any way anymore.  There are no numbers, and their software charts are inconsistent.  If you want to know what an actual good report looks like, then look at Famitsu and not NPD.


However, in response to fairness you said this.
"So is they being unfair to Nintendo or Nintendo isn't telling them the data that other companies tell?"
I don't see this as either/or.  It's both/and.  (And yes, the post you linked to says both in the first sentence.)

Me: "The NPD has never really been fair to Nintendo, so they choose not to share data with them."



The_Liquid_Laser said:
DonFerrari said:

They are consistent on reporting the numbers they have. And was you or someone else here that was saying they aren't fair to nintendo.

Yes it was you in this very thread. Seems like you aren't being consistent yourself.

https://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9328867

Go to the actual post you were responding to.  I was comparing NPD to Famitsu.  Famitsu's reports are consistent.  NPD's are not.  Also Famitsu actually reports numbers for software and hardware.  NPD does not.  NPD's report is basically trash.  It is not useful in any way anymore.  There are no numbers, and their software charts are inconsistent.  If you want to know what an actual good report looks like, then look at Famitsu and not NPD.


However, in response to fairness you said this.
"So is they being unfair to Nintendo or Nintendo isn't telling them the data that other companies tell?"
I don't see this as either/or.  It's both/and.  (And yes, the post you linked to says both in the first sentence.)

Me: "The NPD has never really been fair to Nintendo, so they choose not to share data with them."

Sure NPD is totally trash and that is why most if not all of the big companies in gaming pay them for their data.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

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Pride:

Like other companies boosting your total software sales with including digital only games that cost 50 cents is shamefull in their eyes.

Or

The digital only games sales are not so great and instead of showing the truth they don't want to tell us because now every dev believes the Eshop is a gold mine for indies.






I’d guess one of two things.
First, they haven’t received a worthy offer for their sales data.
Second, it’s a corporate shareholder thing - limiting data to quarterly reports rather than third party distribution.

I don’t think Nintendo has any personal grudge against NPD or vice versa. Nintendo has often touted NPD numbers. Nintendo also doesn’t share digital numbers with anyone (not just NPD) outside of their own quarterly reports.



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DonFerrari said:
The_Liquid_Laser said:

Go to the actual post you were responding to.  I was comparing NPD to Famitsu.  Famitsu's reports are consistent.  NPD's are not.  Also Famitsu actually reports numbers for software and hardware.  NPD does not.  NPD's report is basically trash.  It is not useful in any way anymore.  There are no numbers, and their software charts are inconsistent.  If you want to know what an actual good report looks like, then look at Famitsu and not NPD.


However, in response to fairness you said this.
"So is they being unfair to Nintendo or Nintendo isn't telling them the data that other companies tell?"
I don't see this as either/or.  It's both/and.  (And yes, the post you linked to says both in the first sentence.)

Me: "The NPD has never really been fair to Nintendo, so they choose not to share data with them."

Sure NPD is totally trash and that is why most if not all of the big companies in gaming pay them for their data.

I can only assume that if they pay, then they actually include numbers.  We don't get numbers, and that makes the report trash.



The_Liquid_Laser said:
DonFerrari said:

Sure NPD is totally trash and that is why most if not all of the big companies in gaming pay them for their data.

I can only assume that if they pay, then they actually include numbers.  We don't get numbers, and that makes the report trash.

We don`t get reports at all. But on leaks we get the numbers. So you are comparing and complaining of pointless stuff?



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

DonFerrari said:
The_Liquid_Laser said:

I can only assume that if they pay, then they actually include numbers.  We don't get numbers, and that makes the report trash.

We don`t get reports at all. But on leaks we get the numbers. So you are comparing and complaining of pointless stuff?

Just pointing out what you just said.  The NPD report is pointless.