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How many subscribers does MS need for other companies to follow?

20 million 6 13.33%
 
30 million 4 8.89%
 
40 million 6 13.33%
 
50 million 13 28.89%
 
60 million 2 4.44%
 
70 million 1 2.22%
 
80 million 0 0%
 
90 million 1 2.22%
 
150 million + 12 26.67%
 
Total:45
kirby007 on 11 October 2021
eva01beserk said:
kirby007 said:

And it shouldn't be because its a different service. Jezus man stop comparing fruit with meat. Yes both are food but thats where the overlap enda

I thought it was phil spencer that first compared it to netflix? 

or Blockbuster because it is indeed a streaming/rental service but the product being rented is different



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Signalstar on 11 October 2021
Shinobi-san said:

The problem with the Netflix comparison is that Netflix does not make top rated blockbuster movies inhouse. While they do make top notch series, I feel like that's less relevant for gaming.

Clearly this is due to budget constraints imposed on Netflix by their subscription model which needs to cater for inhouse development, and purchasing rights from other content suppliers to make an overall worth while service.

If you superimpose this with Gamepass - you going to ultimately end up in a scenario where the quality of inhouse content will have to drop. That being said the output from MS first party studios has been so low of late, that they are still going to be in a better position with gamepass either way. However, once their content is on par with Sony and Nintendo I think they too will end up in a predicament - especially with escalating game development costs for AAA games.

Sony and Nintendo on the other hand can not and should not adopt the exact same model. I suspect they will both adopt a hybrid model - whereby they can still make huge profits from new releases in the launch period - while simultaneously offering a more comprehensive service than PS+ or PS Now etc.

That's just not true. I may not like Netflix original movies but they do spend a lot of money on them from time to time.

The Irishman cost $200 million.

Bright, Roma, Six Underground, and Red Notice are others.

Netflix just spent $400 million for two sequels to Knives Out.

Those are blockbuster figures.



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smroadkill15 on 11 October 2021
eva01beserk said:
kirby007 said:

And it shouldn't be because its a different service. Jezus man stop comparing fruit with meat. Yes both are food but thats where the overlap enda

I thought it was phil spencer that first compared it to netflix? 

It's comparable because they share similar characteristics of a sub services, but the kind of content and audiences for both differs. We have some acting like they know for a fact Game Pass will fail, even though it's likely them projecting their feelings about Game Pass, because it's not seeing the same growth Netflix has had the last few years. A fairly new sub service in a completely different side of entertainment should be doing the same as Netflix? It's such a weird take and we have no idea where Game Pass will be in 5-10 years. 



src on 11 October 2021

Netflix has Hollywood budget, directors and actor movies. The difference is Netflix is so successful that it can afford to payout such numbers.

Gamepass can never do this because unlike Netflix, the biggest games will never be exclusive to the service. (The Irishman is only on Netflix, but AC Valhalla will be on Steam, PSN, XBL etc).

For SP games pubs will not put their big money makers day 1 or anytime close to launch as the market gives them more money than whatever MS calculates their payout to be.

For MP, it makes more sense, just like PSN+, where placing your game gives you millions more downloads and with your MTX you can get more money. However, this is the F2P model and doing this means that most likely you'll make more money simply making your game F2P.

The biggest MP games are now going F2P (Warzone, Fortnite, Rocket League, Apex, BF Hazard, Genshin Impact, Destiny, Warframe, Splitgate), making Gamepass useless.



kirby007 on 11 October 2021

true ms has no studios



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kirby007 on 11 October 2021

for an obviously failing service you do a shitload of effort to convince others it's shit



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eva01beserk on 11 October 2021
smroadkill15 said:
eva01beserk said:

I thought it was phil spencer that first compared it to netflix? 

It's comparable because they share similar characteristics of a sub services, but the kind of content and audiences for both differs. We have some acting like they know for a fact Game Pass will fail, even though it's likely them projecting their feelings about Game Pass, because it's not seeing the same growth Netflix has had the last few years. A fairly new sub service in a completely different side of entertainment should be doing the same as Netflix? It's such a weird take and we have no idea where Game Pass will be in 5-10 years. 

That is exactly the point people are making, but people here like to pick and choose wich metric to compare when its favorable to their argument. And the ones dismissing data seem to be pro gamepass. Because the biggest issue wich you just admitted to is the type of content and which will work in this type of service. Games take to much investment and take to much time and cater to a much smaller audience than shows and movies. 



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eva01beserk on 11 October 2021
kirby007 said:
eva01beserk said:

I thought it was phil spencer that first compared it to netflix? 

or Blockbuster because it is indeed a streaming/rental service but the product being rented is different

Are you calling papa phil wrong?



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kirby007 on 11 October 2021
eva01beserk said:
kirby007 said:

or Blockbuster because it is indeed a streaming/rental service but the product being rented is different

Are you calling papa phil wrong?

no, im just saying the comparison holds regarding the streaming, not regarding the product being streamed



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eva01beserk on 11 October 2021
kirby007 said:
eva01beserk said:

Are you calling papa phil wrong?

no, im just saying the comparison holds regarding the streaming, not regarding the product being streamed

So then is reasonable to assume that it will not see the same type of growth since its a diferent product? Or that because one product made it, doesn't guaranty a different product will also make it. wright? 



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