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Pemalite said:

No. You are shifting the goal post and twisting definitions.

And you are right, the Op is talking about must-have games that can't be found "elsewhere". - Thus if it's on WiiU, it can be found elsewhere, that's being logical and literal.

The amount of people who bought a WiiU is thus irrelevant to that end.
Even if only a single WiiU console ever sold, if those games can be bought on it, then those games are not exclusive to the Switch.

I fully understand the definition but it matters little, since Nintendo made the U and its successor the Switch and published BotW on them agnostic of platform, at the end of the U lifecycle. So essentially it is living across the original and the successor naturally, and was a flagship Switch title, and a launch title. It basically is the face of the Switch and also, who would not include it in a list like OP initiated and why produce a list with so little meaning? I think that's the most important question. What is the point of the list if BotW is knocked out for getting stuck on terms when we all understand the bigger picture?

Well if I may answer: it's basically pointless. Also probably why OP added a section for Switch/WiiU and rightfully so, since without that section the list doesn't hold water.

And come to think of it, is Mario 64 an N64 exclusive? Because it was released on the Wii via the virtual console,  and on the Switch through the collection Super Mario 3D All-Stars. Or is Link's Awakening a Game Boy exclusive though it was later released as Link's Awakening DX on the game boy color? Was Yoshi's Island a SNES exclusive though it came out in the GBA as Super Mario Advance 3? And what of Ocarina of time that had a special edition release on the Gamecube, is that not a 64 exclusive?

That's why sticking to terms when it comes to a timed release in Nintendo consoles exclusively is really not important.

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padib said:

And come to think of it, is Mario 64 an N64 exclusive? Because it was released on the Wii via the virtual console,  and on the Switch through the collection Super Mario 3D All-Stars. Or is Link's Awakening a Game Boy exclusive though it was later released as Link's Awakening DX on the game boy color? Was Yoshi's Island a SNES exclusive though it came out in the GBA as Super Mario Advance 3? And what of Ocarina of time that had a special edition release on the Gamecube, is that not a 64 exclusive?

That's why sticking to terms when it comes to a timed release in Nintendo consoles exclusively is really not important.

If it's had an official release on another platform, it's not exclusive, that is all there is to it, there isn't an exception to this.

It's the literal definition.


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Pemalite said:
padib said:

And come to think of it, is Mario 64 an N64 exclusive? Because it was released on the Wii via the virtual console,  and on the Switch through the collection Super Mario 3D All-Stars. Or is Link's Awakening a Game Boy exclusive though it was later released as Link's Awakening DX on the game boy color? Was Yoshi's Island a SNES exclusive though it came out in the GBA as Super Mario Advance 3? And what of Ocarina of time that had a special edition release on the Gamecube, is that not a 64 exclusive?

That's why sticking to terms when it comes to a timed release in Nintendo consoles exclusively is really not important.

If it's had an official release on another platform, it's not exclusive, that is all there is to it, there isn't an exception to this.

It's the literal definition.

How are you still not understanding this even after having it explained to you multiple times in multiple ways?

No one is denying that it’s technically not an exclusive, that’s not the argument being made. What we’re saying is that for all intents and purposes it’s an exclusive.



I describe myself as a little dose of toxic masculinity.

What has this thread turned into?



Top tier discussion going on here.



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Jumpin said:
Pemalite said:

If it's had an official release on another platform, it's not exclusive, that is all there is to it, there isn't an exception to this.

It's the literal definition.

How are you still not understanding this even after having it explained to you multiple times in multiple ways?

No one is denying that it’s technically not an exclusive, that’s not the argument being made. What we’re saying is that for all intents and purposes it’s an exclusive.

And I am arguing that for all intents and purposes it's NOT an exclusive... And arguing otherwise simply undermines the truth.



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Kakadu18 said:

What has this thread turned into?

I tried to be bring some rational to the debate, next time i'll know better and will attack it in my usual irrational way.



This argument has made this thread dumb.

Exclusive normally just means only on that company's systems. So any first party game would apply.
You can say exclusive and not ports of old games, so then MK8D wouldn't count.
And sure if you really wanna be technical about exclusive just to the system BotW wouldn't count, but Switch was the primary release for BotW, as it launched same day on a dead (and failed) system.
I get what Permalite is saying about exclusive to Switch, but most people consider BotW to be a Switch exclusive, and if we wanna use the term in it's normal sense then any old port first party game applies as well.

I'd say go ahead and use the normal usage of exclusive, meaning the games aren't on Xbox, Playstation, or PC. Cuz then there is no stupid debate about BotW, and you can throw in an obvious exlcusive like MK8D, and possibly other games like 3D World, or whatever Nintendo ports you happen to love that are available on the Switch.

Between cross gen titles, the mass production of old ports these days including remakes and remasters, backwards compatibility, and retro game services, talking about games that are only every released on a single system as exclusive kinda loses it's meaning because what is only available on a single system today could easily be on more systems in the future. If you still want a decently strict definition of exclusive then just stick to it must be launched as a new game on the system and isn't available on the other company's hardware - in this case BotW is an exclusive because it launched on Switch as a brand new never before seen game and is first party.



Pretty sure I played Gris on Ps4 over a year ago...



Slownenberg said:

This argument has made this thread dumb.

Exclusive normally just means only on that company's systems. So any first party game would apply.
You can say exclusive and not ports of old games, so then MK8D wouldn't count.
And sure if you really wanna be technical about exclusive just to the system BotW wouldn't count, but Switch was the primary release for BotW, as it launched same day on a dead (and failed) system.
I get what Permalite is saying about exclusive to Switch, but most people consider BotW to be a Switch exclusive, and if we wanna use the term in it's normal sense then any old port first party game applies as well.

I'd say go ahead and use the normal usage of exclusive, meaning the games aren't on Xbox, Playstation, or PC. Cuz then there is no stupid debate about BotW, and you can throw in an obvious exlcusive like MK8D, and possibly other games like 3D World, or whatever Nintendo ports you happen to love that are available on the Switch.

Between cross gen titles, the mass production of old ports these days including remakes and remasters, backwards compatibility, and retro game services, talking about games that are only every released on a single system as exclusive kinda loses it's meaning because what is only available on a single system today could easily be on more systems in the future. If you still want a decently strict definition of exclusive then just stick to it must be launched as a new game on the system and isn't available on the other company's hardware - in this case BotW is an exclusive because it launched on Switch as a brand new never before seen game and is first party.

But BOTW was simultaneously released on both Wii U and Switch, it's a cross gen title. I would understand if it was released in some minor obscure platform not readily or easily available for purchase. One example is Animal Crossing originally released on Nintendo 64 but only came to west on Game Cube, but that's not the case of BOTW. It was a game with a full retail release that sold 1.7 million copies, really pales compared to Switch version, but still a pretty good number and the 13th best selling Wii U software. 

It's by no means an a Switch-exclusive and I'm still trying hard to understand why people on this thread are making mental gymnastics to say it's a exclusive when it's clearly not one.  It's just not apply to any logical definition of exclusivity 

Exclusivity is state. You can be a timed-exclusive that is later ported to other system/PC. MK8 used to be Wii U exclusive, since 2017 it's not as it was re released on Switch 

So any game released in a console that is BC starts to be not a platform-exclusive anymore?

My simple answer is: Of course yes. It has been true since the first ever backwards compatibility console was released

We just can call it "Nintendo exclusive on Switch" if people want so hard to keep it on Switch must have list