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snyps said:
JRPGfan said:

When 98% or more of scientist in the field all agree on something, its rational to listen to them, and not doubt them.
Esp when the remaining 2% or so (that disagree), are payed by oil companies ect.

Global warming is real.
Its time to stop kidding yourself, and this "skepticism" towards science.

And can you not sidetrack this thread, with questions of "if its real"? ect, "which scientists to believe" ect.

From World-Meteorological-organization:
(a global collection of meteorologists, and their meassurements of global mean temp since 1850)

https://public.wmo.int/en/media/press-release/wmo-confirms-2019-second-hottest-year-record

And yes, if you go back like 50 million+ years, it was hotter on earth than it is now, and there were no icecaps, and there was still life on earth.

The question is.... how does mandkind (as it is) do, if things keep going the way they are?

We will be worse off.

Climate change will effect area's suitable for farming (less of it)
Water sources (underground) used for argiculture, are running out places, rivers are drying out..... this will again reduce places we can farm.

The amount of places we can live, will also change.
Riseing sea levels, will put some places inhabitated right now under (sea) water.
Which will result in migration.

coastal protection, is another issue altogether... with riseing sea levels.
The smart plan ahead, and avoid forseen issues.
The comeing decade, will see a mass industry pop up around coastal protection imo.
The smarter (and wealthy) countries in risk zones, will start en mass doing big projects to protect themselves.

As for places with underground water running out, rivers drying out..
To bad, cant farm there anymore if its become unsustainable.
People will just have to adapt to riseing food prices and water prices.



I did not ask if it’s real or which scientists to believe. I asked how do you solve it. The only answer I’ve heard is vote for any politician who says the right things. Which always works perfect, so… problem solved. 

We cant solve it anymore.
Temps will keep riseing above levels we need to maintain to "not break current way things funktion".
Weather systems will change due to climate change, thats something we cant change now, we were too slow to act in time or sufficently.
(atleast thats what climate experts are saying)

Its about adapteing now.

Thats why they say climate change needs to be taken seriously, resently.
Its reached the point, where you cant ignore it anymore.
Rivers will dry out, places will run out of underground water, deserts will grow, other places will be flooded (due to riseing sea levels) ect.
More and more extreme weather will become common (more fires (in hot areas), more tornadoes/hurrcanes, floodings in other parts).

Now its about inferstructure to handle those things.
Floodings in particular (from heavy rain ect), and stuff like coastal protection.

The other stuff, like running out of water will fix it self.
You cant waste water if you have none.
You cant have a unsustainable farming sector (in a area too hot for it, with water issues) if there is none.

People and farming will just move.
Same will happend, if your country sucks at stuff like coastal protections and dealing with floodings.
If a city is often under water, I assume people will say "screw this" and move away.

Climate change will force people to move/migrate away from certain area's.

The Cynic in me doesnt think we can do much of anything to change things.
The optimistic might believe someone like Elon Musk, will save us all by useing technology to "remove cabron from the atmosphere".

I wouldn't get my hopes up.
I think its more realistic to plan for the changes to come, so your ready for them.
State heads, should be looking at long term planning, and start doing something about these issues that will pop up.

Last edited by JRPGfan - on 02 July 2021

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More than 130 wildfires - fuelled by lightning strikes - are burning across western Canada following a record-breaking heatwave.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-57703853 



Rab said:

More than 130 wildfires - fuelled by lightning strikes - are burning across western Canada following a record-breaking heatwave.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-57703853 

130 is only just the start. Expect more... This is basically the new normal.

In 2019/2020 season... A single Australian state (NSW) had 11,264 fires for the whole season.

Obviously you have the La-Nina, Indian Dipole and more coming into effect, but if there was a full-blown La-Nina, that would produce drier and hotter conditions in Northern America, so shit could get allot worse than they are now. (Thankfully in a Neutral stage.)

The flipside is... My bags are packed.



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Rab said:

More than 130 wildfires - fuelled by lightning strikes - are burning across western Canada following a record-breaking heatwave.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-57703853 

That's fucking badass!



I describe myself as a little dose of toxic masculinity.

It's opposite in Ontario, so much rain. No flooding yet, it's all localized short downpours, dumping buckets of water out of the sky. We went from heat wave and drought in spring, to a very messy start of summer. Better than forest fires at least :/



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SvennoJ said:

It's opposite in Ontario, so much rain. No flooding yet, it's all localized short downpours, dumping buckets of water out of the sky. We went from heat wave and drought in spring, to a very messy start of summer. Better than forest fires at least :/

Here in Luxembourg, we had very cold and wet conditions during most of spring followed by a month of very dry and hot weather. Summer so far was either very hot or very cold and wet, with literally no day with some weather in between with temperature swings between the two extremes being around 10-15 degrees Celsius from one day to the next.

At least the ground water reserves are filled. Too bad flooding and storms are the other consequence of this weather...



I'll never complain about British weather again



For all the climate alarmists - look at news/stories from around the 60s to the 80s - we should already be extinct by now. Not saying we humans don’t have an impact, but this alarmism is not new and every generation has the same doom and gloom predictions. We should be treating our world with more respect, however, we are not 10, 20 or even 50 years away from complete disaster.



Majora said:

For all the climate alarmists - look at news/stories from around the 60s to the 80s - we should already be extinct by now. Not saying we humans don’t have an impact, but this alarmism is not new and every generation has the same doom and gloom predictions. We should be treating our world with more respect, however, we are not 10, 20 or even 50 years away from complete disaster.

You got any examples here?



Bofferbrauer2 said:
Majora said:

For all the climate alarmists - look at news/stories from around the 60s to the 80s - we should already be extinct by now. Not saying we humans don’t have an impact, but this alarmism is not new and every generation has the same doom and gloom predictions. We should be treating our world with more respect, however, we are not 10, 20 or even 50 years away from complete disaster.

You got any examples here?

Considering everyone here more than likely has the entirety of human knowledge in their pocket, I should imagine it wouldn’t be difficult to search this yourself, I’m sorry to sound shirty - actually, I’m not. Research it yourself. As for an anecdote - and yes, I agree, anecdotes are not evidence but they can prove relevant - I was born in 1989 and growing up in the 90s I remember news stories saying by the mid 2000s we’d all be dead. I saw them and heard them as a young boy - they stick in my head - they didn’t occur.