RE8 PS5 is gone from the Top 30 so it looks like it won't be a mainstay for the system in the charts long term, Guilty Gear will probably be gone next week too.
Japanese PS gamers still mostly sticking with their PS4 games for now.
RE8 PS5 is gone from the Top 30 so it looks like it won't be a mainstay for the system in the charts long term, Guilty Gear will probably be gone next week too.
Japanese PS gamers still mostly sticking with their PS4 games for now.
XBS up over 400% wow!!
also seems we were missing one genre tag on the last thread TBL or tabletop and board games.
Ratchet's first week sales are abysmal, its such a great franchise, what a damn waste
Otter said:
This is not a good comparison. MK8 Switch does not have a free upgrade for Wii U owners. Switch is a portable. Switch has a highly distinct userbase from the Wii U. ----- In regards to decline of FF, all the data you need is in 2020s release. This free upgrade for existing owners doesn't add much to this narrative and has no examples of free upgrades to be compared to. |
Switch sold way more than Switch Lite. If they care about portable only, just Lite model is enough.
HoangNhatAnh said:
Switch sold way more than Switch Lite. If they care about portable only, just Lite model is enough. |
This logic doesn't get you anywhere. The base system is a hybrid, it will always benefit and be distinct from a device (like Wii U) that can only be played at home. If someone play 95% portable they may still prefer the option to "Switch" lol. Better yet they might like the option of tabletop or the bigger screen. The portability of it is just one of the many, many reasons why comparing FFVII intergrade sales to MK8 Switch is nonsensical. If anyone who owned the game on Wii U wanted to continue playing on Switch they have to buy a new copy, it's also a multiplayer game which means it has a longer shelf life in peoples homes. And this without touching on the fact that the audience Switch attracted largely did not own Wii U's.
But I feel like we're beating a dead horse here, so I will just concede.... FFVII intergrade is the biggest flop of the last decade. A new FF game opening to 21k is shocking, they should cancel part 2's Japanese release. Can we move on now? :)
Edit: oopsie HoangNhatAnh, sorry I thought I was responding to someone else. This sentiment was not targeted at you... but it still applies to the topic lol
Last edited by Otter - on 18 June 2021Otter said:
This logic doesn't get you anyway. The base system is a hybrid, it will always benefit and be distinct from a device (like Wii U) that can only be played at home. If someone play 95% portable they may still prefer the option to "Switch" lol. Better yet they might like the option of tabletop or the bigger screen. The portability of it is just one of the many, many reasons why comparing FFVII intergrade sales to MK8 Switch is nonsensical. If anyone who owned the game on Wii U wanted to continue playing on Switch they have to buy a new copy, it's also a multiplayer game which means it has a longer shelf life in peoples homes. And this without touching on the fact that the audience Switch attracted largely did not own Wii U's. But I feel like we're beating a dead horse here, so I will just concede.... FFVII intergrade is the biggest flop of the last decade. A new FF game opening to 21k is shocking, they should cancel part 2's Japanese release. Can we move on now? :) Edit: oopsie HoangNhatAnh, sorry I thought I was responding to someone else. This sentiment was not targeted at you... but it still applies to the topic lol |
Except Switch price >>> Switch Lite price.
HoangNhatAnh said: Except Switch price >>> Switch Lite price. |
Not everyone is poor :p
Seriously though, people like options and fearful of missing out. I buy games exclusive digital atm but I still paid extra for the Bluray PS5. I play my Switch 98% in docked mode but would still buy the hybrid over a cheaper Switch TV
FFVII Re undeperformance on PS4 is a fact, but to somewhat extend this underperformance to PS5 version sales is far too much
The pool of PS5 owners who owned PS4 might be closer to 100%. If you offer your whole library for free your only reason to rebuy games you already own is for collective purposes, which is absolutely the case here
So any PS5 game that is free delivered from PS4 isn't expected to sell at all, except for collectors or for the very small non-PS4 owners who have a PS5
All comparisons for non free delivered games are ultimely pointless, unless the system is fully BC. If you want a fairer comparison I think SMT Devil Survivor is the way to go
DS version sold 310k, 3DS version sold 4 years later sold 120k. Need to point however to play additional content you really needed to buy the 3DS version, for FF VII you can skip it and just buy the DLC
If some day Sony reveal the DLC sales numbers for 7RE and they are abysmally, then I would be worried, until there it's hard to be concerned with people choosing to not buying a game again after just 1 year
Agente42 said:
I know. it's a final fantasy mainline. Not a spin-off. Try to spin this for a good sale its wrong because of game scope, franchise size, and investment. Full price Nintendo port of Mario 2d sell gangbusters. Ok Sale, for the FW in the range 50-75k, with scalpers theory on. |
Final Fantasy doesn't have long legs usually, most people buy it early on, these sales are not surprising at all, especially considering the free upgrade.
Wyrdness said:
Thing is the PS4 version in itself only moved about 1m retail in the region going by Famitsu's numbers so even with the free upgrade the game is already well below expectations before we consider if everyone upgraded especially as we had people expecting it to sell 10 to 15m in total WW which would require a much more significant performance in the region. Even the argument of double dipping here doesn't really offset the underwhelming performance as a game development tool basically outsold the much requested remake of a popular game. |
People who expected the game to sell 10-15mil WW have no idea how these games actually sell nowadays. The original FF7 didn't sell 15mil with all skus combined.
In Japan the game didn't underperform either, the franchise was in decline for 15 years already. People who expected the game to be that popular WW overestimated it because they didn't realise they're in an internet bubble on a small forum where most people are enthusiasts.
Square Enix had realistic expectation though and they were happy with 5mil.
I don't get why people here are suprised GBG outsold FF7R Intergrade. There is a free upgrade, most people who wanted to play it already did, PS5 software sales are abysmal and preorders for GBG were big. Did anyone here expect FF7RI to sell 100k at launch?