Exactly, it's too early to tell and what we've seen so far is NOT lining up with the narrative people have been pushing. if I'm wrong and 10 years from now the  entire industry has changed...well, then that will suck for the rest of us. It's been 4 years, that's a long time in the games industry and PSNow and Gamepass, although popular, are not as widespread and influential as many people claim. 

It's like Scott Pilgrim vs the World. it was well-reviewed, well-liked, and stunningly gorgeous, but no matter how good it was it didn't translate to a huge box office because the market for gamers into quirky, high-energy movies about Canadian living video game characters is not that big. Those who watched and liked that movie LOVED it, but the market is tiny. Gamepass has a market, but the, what, 18 million gamers on there is a tiny fraction of the total gaming populace. and a huge portion of those are on PC. It's really not doing that much for Xbox or Sony. It's having a tiny little effect on consoles, positive or negative. 

I don't personally like game subscriptions but I want it to succeed because it's good to have options. However, the reality is that...it's really not having that significant of an effect regardless of its critical reception or Microsoft/Sony's insistence on it being the future of gaming. Too many people still like owning their games, or already have a huge collection. It will be years before a new generation starts from scratch and finds it easier to just buy GamePass/Now than keep the games they already own. 

I could be wrong, but all signs point to this being the case, at least for now. You can't dictate your on reality based on theories and wishes and hope. that's not how this works. 

How ? There is no new 1st party title since November last year, it's got even worse from this perspective actually.

Some people just want to believe and have hope, man! 

People here thinking that every studio added translated to a game added like if they are playing the studio themselves. 

Oh dear god, the anti-Xbox people are after me

I never once mentioned their output, i said they now have the studios to support such a service. You keep driving this point about their output being weak this year, something that myself and others have agreed on. If you don’t think going from 4 to 23 studios is a vast difference in MS’s first party, idk what to tell you. If you think future output with 23 studios is going to comparable to the 4 studios during the Xbox one era, i still don’t know what to tell you. 

edit: Literally not even worth a reply and I don't want to move this thread off-topic.

too early to say, but i think +100m is very likely

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Calling me "anti-Xbox" (which I am not btw, I have Game Pass, and I like the service) kind of proves my point actually.

And it's like in every discussion, "they have 23 studios", been repeated over and over as the sole argument against "what about the games ?"

Do I think the output of 23 studios will be similar to 4 studios ? No, of course not. But I also don't put a huge amount of faith in studio amount, that metric was never been a thing until now and I don't see why it would matter now.

Right? Like, don't get me wrong, having 23 studios is a big deal, in theory. None of that matters if none of them are making games with any semblance of consistency or quality. we've yet to see any shocking new games come from this, anything new or interesting or fun. 

Insomniac alone has released more high-quality games since PS5 released alone than all of Microsoft's 23 have put together since the Xbox Series X released. and we're talking high metacritic, good-selling games. you know, ones people actually talk about and are buying. That's not to say that we won't see a sudden boom 2-3 years from now, but we've been hearing this story for a decade now. I WANT GAMES. I WANT to see more new and unique stuff coming out. I want to see all this money and investment capital being put to good use. Even if I don't get an Xbox I do know plenty of people who game on PC and would love for there to be even more games for them to play. I know plenty of people who have GamePass and would love to try out all this other stuff. 

All the potential in the world means nothing if nothing is coming of it. People need to stop using this 'they have 23 studios' argument until we actually see something come of it. (and for the record, I also was skeptical of Sony's claim of '25 new exclusives, half of which are new IP' claim. I'd love for this to be true but it just sounds way too lofty to not come with a heap of salt and caveats)

For game pass when very big games like Elder Scrolls 6 are on the service day 1 that will have an impact for sure. Unless Microsoft screws up with game pass or a very good competing service is introduced soon I'll be surprised if the total subscription number across Xbox consoles, PC and mobile devices doesn't get close to 100m or even surpasses that later this decade.