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Mandalore76 on 13 May 2021
Pemalite said:
Kakadu18 said:

You clearly don't know what a dedicated gaming device is. Smartphones are not dedicated gaming devices.

Anyone can use any device as a "dedicated gaming device".

Either way, consoles are no longer dedicated gaming devices, we moved away from that during the 7th gen where consoles became media-centers.

And lastly... You don't have the authority to tell anyone to do anything.

Mandalore76 said:

You continue to gloss over the fact that I have stated "Dedicated Gaming Device" in every single one of my posts.  Worse yet, you seem to think that Android and iPhones actually are dedicated gaming devices.  Here's a visual guide to clear this up.

Examples of Dedicated Gaming Devices (Devices designed specifically for playing video games as their primary function):

Examples of Mobile Phones (Devices designed specifically as mobile phones as their primary function):

Mobile phones are not considered "dedicated gaming devices that can conveniently make phone calls".  They are mobile phones first, that yes can do a wide range of other functions.  When a mobile devices sells, we do not track it as a video game system sale, a calculator sale, a calendar sale, etc.  It's a mobile phone.  

Here is the kicker... And I know it's a shocker. But consoles these days come with a multitude of additional "features" like media players, web browsers, apps like Youtube/Netflix and more.

They aren't dedicated gaming devices and haven't been for years... It all comes down to how someone uses the device, if all they use the device for is gaming... Then by it's literal definition, it's a dedicated gaming device and thus the underlying form factor/operating system and/or technology is redundant.

Sorry for the late reply, had a few horrific jobs.

Prove that billions of people buy smart phones only to use for gaming.



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Pemalite on 13 May 2021
kirby007 said:
Pemalite said:

Sorry misquote, that was towards Rol.

Dont use my thread to abuse you authority as mod by pointing out you have a bigger willy than Rol, its not done

Unless this isnt flexing your modauthority in that case keep pummeling Rol

It has absolutely nothing to do with anyone being a moderator, any user, regardless of who they are cannot shut down another user who is discussing something.

Moderator abuse would be... If you know. I actually used my moderator powers to remove/shut down discussions/individuals outside of my scope of responsibility. (And that will never happen.)

But nice try turning it into something that it isn't.

Mandalore76 said:
Pemalite said:

Anyone can use any device as a "dedicated gaming device".

Either way, consoles are no longer dedicated gaming devices, we moved away from that during the 7th gen where consoles became media-centers.

And lastly... You don't have the authority to tell anyone to do anything.

Mandalore76 said:

You continue to gloss over the fact that I have stated "Dedicated Gaming Device" in every single one of my posts.  Worse yet, you seem to think that Android and iPhones actually are dedicated gaming devices.  Here's a visual guide to clear this up.

Examples of Dedicated Gaming Devices (Devices designed specifically for playing video games as their primary function):

Examples of Mobile Phones (Devices designed specifically as mobile phones as their primary function):

Mobile phones are not considered "dedicated gaming devices that can conveniently make phone calls".  They are mobile phones first, that yes can do a wide range of other functions.  When a mobile devices sells, we do not track it as a video game system sale, a calculator sale, a calendar sale, etc.  It's a mobile phone.  

Here is the kicker... And I know it's a shocker. But consoles these days come with a multitude of additional "features" like media players, web browsers, apps like Youtube/Netflix and more.

They aren't dedicated gaming devices and haven't been for years... It all comes down to how someone uses the device, if all they use the device for is gaming... Then by it's literal definition, it's a dedicated gaming device and thus the underlying form factor/operating system and/or technology is redundant.

Sorry for the late reply, had a few horrific jobs.

Prove that billions of people buy smart phones only to use for gaming.

That is like saying that you need to prove to prove that every single Playstation 2 was used for gaming and not as a DVD player.

However.

21% of Android and 23% of iOS app store downloads... Are games.
That's not insignificant.

Games also account for 43% of -all- smartphone use.

The number of active mobile gamers is estimated to be 2.2~ billion.

https://techjury.net/blog/mobile-gaming-statistics/

I think that empirically solidifies my position at this point at any rate.
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Mandalore76 on 14 May 2021
Pemalite said:
kirby007 said:

Dont use my thread to abuse you authority as mod by pointing out you have a bigger willy than Rol, its not done

Unless this isnt flexing your modauthority in that case keep pummeling Rol

It has absolutely nothing to do with anyone being a moderator, any user, regardless of who they are cannot shut down another user who is discussing something.

Moderator abuse would be... If you know. I actually used my moderator powers to remove/shut down discussions/individuals outside of my scope of responsibility. (And that will never happen.)

But nice try turning it into something that it isn't.

Mandalore76 said:

Prove that billions of people buy smart phones only to use for gaming.

That is like saying that you need to prove to prove that every single Playstation 2 was used for gaming and not as a DVD player.

However.

21% of Android and 23% of iOS app store downloads... Are games.
That's not insignificant.

Games also account for 43% of -all- smartphone use.

The number of active mobile gamers is estimated to be 2.2~ billion.

https://techjury.net/blog/mobile-gaming-statistics/

I think that empirically solidifies my position at this point at any rate.

I wasn't going to bring up the PS2's functionality as a DVD player, because there is a vocal group of people on this website the vehemently deny that the PS2 reached 158 million consoles sold because some of them were sold for that feature.  So, you said it not me.  ;)

But, you are still missing the point of what each device is built for.  The Gameboy, GBA, DS, 3DS, and Switch were built specifically to play video games.  You don't need a mobile data plan tied to the system to play them.  Video games are their primary functionality.  Video games do not account for less than 25% of the downloads on a 3DS or Switch.  A mobile/smart phone was designed to be a mobile device with a mobile data plan tied to it for usage.  Yes, the user is free to kill time on it with a plethora of other apps like gaming, social media, video streaming, etc.  But, the purpose of what the device was built for remains the same.  How many of those billions bought their phone with the express purpose of playing Candy Crush? 

And, since you tried calling me out for highlighting Candy Crush as one of the top games that mobile gamers are pouring time and money into, here are the Top Grossing genres of mobile games in NA:

The Most Profitable Mobile Game Genres

According to Statista, these are the top 10 mobile game genres in North America by revenue share.

  1. Puzzle (22.09%)
  2. Casino (17.17%)
  3. RPG (14.33%)
  4. Strategy (13.36%)
  5. Simulation (9.51%)
  6. Shooter (5.87%)
  7. Arcade (5.16%)
  8. Lifestyle (3.89%)
  9. Sports (3.27%)
  10.  AR/Location Based (2.83%)

Match 3 type/puzzle games, followed by Casino gambling games make up the overwhelming majority.



mjk45 on 14 May 2021
RolStoppable said:
Pemalite said:

And lastly... You don't have the authority to tell anyone to do anything.

I was just trying to help you. But yes, you are allowed to keep digging the hole for yourself deeper.

I was going to say he's dedicated to digging but apparently since he's shown empirical evidence that dedicated means "to the exclusion of all else"  and he seems to be breathing I take it back.



Research shows Video games  help make you smarter, so why am I an idiot

mjk45 on 14 May 2021
Pemalite said:
kirby007 said:

Dont use my thread to abuse you authority as mod by pointing out you have a bigger willy than Rol, its not done

Unless this isnt flexing your modauthority in that case keep pummeling Rol

It has absolutely nothing to do with anyone being a moderator, any user, regardless of who they are cannot shut down another user who is discussing something.

Moderator abuse would be... If you know. I actually used my moderator powers to remove/shut down discussions/individuals outside of my scope of responsibility. (And that will never happen.)

But nice try turning it into something that it isn't.

Mandalore76 said:

Prove that billions of people buy smart phones only to use for gaming.

That is like saying that you need to prove to prove that every single Playstation 2 was used for gaming and not as a DVD player.

However.

21% of Android and 23% of iOS app store downloads... Are games.
That's not insignificant.

Games also account for 43% of -all- smartphone use.

The number of active mobile gamers is estimated to be 2.2~ billion.

https://techjury.net/blog/mobile-gaming-statistics/

I think that empirically solidifies my position at this point at any rate.

 As solid as quicksand, all it does is show that people play games on their phones something that hasn't been disputed, it's about underlying purpose .



Research shows Video games  help make you smarter, so why am I an idiot