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JWeinCom said:

Seems like the TL:DR version of this is that the distractionary tactic in question is to make games that people want to buy?

I'm really not sure why this is being presented as something nefarious or underhanded, or some flaw in their customers.

I'm trying to explain that there is a phenomenon with nintendo's formula. To say it's a distractionary tactic is to describe the underhanded, but also legal loophole nintendo has. On one hand, there are people wanting Nintendo to lighten up, fan games etc. But Nintendo denies anyways and it's business as usual and they sell 4 million MHR in 3 days. You can call that something else, but thats what I wanted to call it. Just to see if anyone else can see it. 

By the way, I'm not saying anyone should boycott Nintendo or anything. I am a fan, but as a fan of Nintendo, I can't help but think that this is kinda cool they have that power.



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wahwah said:

I find the celebratory tone of this topic rather disturbing.

Not gonna lie. It's a love letter to Nintendo. If I poised it as affection, well my fanboyism would be called out.



RolStoppable said:

This is a bad thread for the simple reason that it fails to make a coherent point.

If people were actually honest, then most of the allegedly bad things Nintendo does are things that the vast majority of their consumers don't care the slightest bit about. Supposed issues like fanmade games being taken down and Smash Bros. tournaments not getting sponsored are things that a very small vocal minority screams about to make them look like issues, but the vast majority will just shrug with their shoulders if they ever hear about it. This line of thinking that I or other Nintendo fans should have beef with Nintendo because a few touchy Nintendo fans or trolls who are fans of other console manufacturers see an issue where there is none is incredibly stupid.

Besides, Nintendo does not do much public work. Interviews are sparse, so if Nintendo were pursuing a strategy of deceiving and distracting people to shape the minds of their customers, then they aren't doing a good job at all. The bosses of Sony's and Microsoft's gaming divisions are much more present and it's them who regularly run into contradictions and other miscues, because they do try to shape narratives. Likewise, the fans of PS and Xbox are much more likely to play along with what they are told to think.


See there, I was using a tactic on you as well. Gotcha!

So the point of this was to not actually hate on Nintendo, it was to bring a phenomenon to light. Let's just call the phenomenon as GAWI( getting away with it). I painted the header as nefarious because if I described the phenomenon as anything else, I don't know how else to describe it. 

Nintendo seems to have all the power in this relationship with fans its almost like a paradox. They cancel tournaments, take down fan games, have bad online, but gawi prevails and Nintendo prospers. It sounds nefarious because their gawi is nefarious. 

That is not to say Nintendo is nefarious, but gawi is. 

P.S.

Instead of believing that Nintendo is using a tactic to keep fans in line, it makes much more sense to recognize that Nintendo isn't playing any games to make anyone of us think of Nintendo what Nintendo wants us to think.

No, man. To think that no company is trying to coerce our thinking is not believing that McDonald's and other fast food don't place addictive substances in our food. It's to think that the Superbowl is solely for football and the million dollar in advertisement is just for show.



Glad I held off from posting anything serious here. Big yikes.



theDX said:
Eagle367 said:

Don't be overdramatic. It's just people that like Monster hunter rise and don't give a damn about internet outrage over some old Mario games being limited releases

I'm not buying Nintendo games because Take Two overly monetizes the NBA 2K series, so I actually don't know what the deal is with the Mario games. Noted.

Damn I hope it's sarcasm



Just a guy who doesn't want to be bored. Also

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Ouroboros24 said:
JWeinCom said:

Seems like the TL:DR version of this is that the distractionary tactic in question is to make games that people want to buy?

I'm really not sure why this is being presented as something nefarious or underhanded, or some flaw in their customers.

I'm trying to explain that there is a phenomenon with nintendo's formula. To say it's a distractionary tactic is to describe the underhanded, but also legal loophole nintendo has. On one hand, there are people wanting Nintendo to lighten up, fan games etc. But Nintendo denies anyways and it's business as usual and they sell 4 million MHR in 3 days. You can call that something else, but thats what I wanted to call it. Just to see if anyone else can see it. 

By the way, I'm not saying anyone should boycott Nintendo or anything. I am a fan, but as a fan of Nintendo, I can't help but think that this is kinda cool they have that power.

MHR is from Capcom.



Regarding mario 3D all-stars, Nintendo were clear from day one that it was a limited timed release. People have had 6 months to digest that information. Whether it's good or bad, Nintendo were very up front about it.



Ouroboros24 said:
JWeinCom said:

Seems like the TL:DR version of this is that the distractionary tactic in question is to make games that people want to buy?

I'm really not sure why this is being presented as something nefarious or underhanded, or some flaw in their customers.

I'm trying to explain that there is a phenomenon with nintendo's formula. To say it's a distractionary tactic is to describe the underhanded, but also legal loophole nintendo has. On one hand, there are people wanting Nintendo to lighten up, fan games etc. But Nintendo denies anyways and it's business as usual and they sell 4 million MHR in 3 days. You can call that something else, but thats what I wanted to call it. Just to see if anyone else can see it. 

By the way, I'm not saying anyone should boycott Nintendo or anything. I am a fan, but as a fan of Nintendo, I can't help but think that this is kinda cool they have that power.

Errr... well it's not a legal loophole, because to my knowledge they haven't done anything illegal. 

The issue with this thread is that it's suggesting that two things are related that aren't necessarily related. 

Nintendo is releasing games they think are good because... you know, they're a game company and that's how they make money. It's not so that people will let them have shitty youtube policies or whatever. If Nintendo let people have melee tournaments or whatever, do you think they'd change the amount or quality of games they release?

Likewise, whether I buy Nintendo games is completely independent of what I think of their policies on fan games (which I think they actually get a bum rap on, because Smash Flash and smogon showdown are somehow allowed to exist). Even if I cared deeply about Nintendo's policy on fan games, I don't think not buying Monster Hunter Rise (which as people point out is not the best example because Capcom is the dev and publisher) would have an impact on their policies.

Again, the bottom line is just that if a company makes a good product, people are generally going to want to buy it. 

zippy said:

Regarding mario 3D all-stars, Nintendo were clear from day one that it was a limited timed release. People have had 6 months to digest that information. Whether it's good or bad, Nintendo were very up front about it.

It's a shitty policy that is basically designed to create artificial scarcity. Honestly, I probably would have not purchased this otherwise, but they got me and my primate brain on this one. There's no reason they couldn't have let it live on the eShop, except that they thought it would probably sell more this way. People who buy the Switch later or who just may have better use for 50 bucks during a pandemic are screwed over a little. It's a policy that hurts consumers with no corresponding benefit to them.

It's more of a minor annoyance than anything and not something so vile that one should stop supporting Nintendo, but it's definitely a bad policy from a consumer point of view.



Kakadu18 said:

I don't have an issue with a limited anniversary rerelease of old games. I don't see where the problem is, I got the games, I can play them whenever I want. If it was a new game that is completely limited, then I would have a problem with it.
Only problem I have is the absense of SMG2.

Nintendo games don't have predatory microtransactions and loot boxes and don't launch broken and full of bugs.
Only a few games are overpriced.

SMG2  they have to save something new for the 40th and 45th anniversaries....



Imo, the issue is that many of the complaints just aren't as substantial as the people mad about them think they are...