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Soundwave said:

DLSS means the GPU has to be either Turing or Ampere-based because older Nvidia generation GPUs (such as the current Switch Mariko chip or even the Pascal chip) can't perform DLSS. 

Not true.

You can do the DLSS calculations on the CUDA cores.

Keep in mind that Tensor cores are just multiplying FP16 matrices, then adding the multiplication to the fp32 matrix and then to the accumulator.
The Tensor cores can also do INT8 and INT4. (Integers) which can also be performed on the CUDA cores.

To put it simply though, think of CUDA cores as slower, more precise, more flexible cores, but the Tensor cores as very specialized, no-bullshit, simple, less precise, but quick cores.

They can both technically do the task of the other, but generally you wouldn't want to due to performance.

Basically if Nintendo wanted... They could take the Pascal based Tegra, shrink it down on say... Samsungs less congested 8nm process and clock it extremely high to make up for the compute overhead.

Peh said:

Please no OLED. Looking at the flagship smartphones by Samsung I've got, they all ended with burn-in issues. IMO, I would prefer LCD.

LCD is definitely preferred for longevity.
But OLED has vastly superior quality.

How are you getting burn in? Always-on display?




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Better CPU and RAM is what I really wanted from start, don't really care for 4K

But also better battery and more memory. If they make a enough big leap then maybe I can start considering buy a new model. So far still not convinced though 



Pemalite said:
Peh said:

Please no OLED. Looking at the flagship smartphones by Samsung I've got, they all ended with burn-in issues. IMO, I would prefer LCD.

LCD is definitely preferred for longevity.
But OLED has vastly superior quality.

How are you getting burn in? Always-on display?

OLED has definitely the better picture quality, hence why I got the LG C9 and LG CX at home and got rid of all the Samsung Quantum Dot backlight bleeding crap.

As of now, my S8+ got the keyboard and overlay of Discord burned in. I suppose the high brightness out in the sun caused it. Don't use Always-on. For the other phones, I can't remember anymore. I also got the S20 as a company phone, but I barely use it. Only for phone calls if necessary. 



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To be honest, at this point the rumor seems to go more in line with a Switch 2 rather than a Switch Pro. After all, it supposedly changes everything from the original Switch, CPU, GPU and RAM capacity, making it a new machine.



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JEMC said:

To be honest, at this point the rumor seems to go more in line with a Switch 2 rather than a Switch Pro. After all, it supposedly changes everything from the original Switch, CPU, GPU and RAM capacity, making it a new machine.

Wasn't the change greater (or as great) than the Xbox One - Xbox One X gap wise ?



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With DLSS, it sounds like it could be quite a massive improvement. $400 is what I'd certainly expect for modern switch implementation. If it's based on Ampere or Turing, would be one hell of a jump from Maxwell although I get the feeling it will be out of stock like everything else.



                  

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SKMBlake said:
JEMC said:

To be honest, at this point the rumor seems to go more in line with a Switch 2 rather than a Switch Pro. After all, it supposedly changes everything from the original Switch, CPU, GPU and RAM capacity, making it a new machine.

Wasn't the change greater (or as great) than the Xbox One - Xbox One X gap wise ?

Since we know nothing about the specs of this rumored new Switch, it's impossible to know how big or small could be the improvement.

Also, the Xbox One X had more RAM and a better GPU compared to the base model, but the CPU was the same, only running at higher frequencies. This Bloomberg article says that not only it will come with more RAM, but both the GPU and the CPU will be "better". If that only means faster, then there won't be much of an improvement.



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JEMC said:
SKMBlake said:

Wasn't the change greater (or as great) than the Xbox One - Xbox One X gap wise ?

Since we know nothing about the specs of this rumored new Switch, it's impossible to know how big or small could be the improvement.

Also, the Xbox One X had more RAM and a better GPU compared to the base model, but the CPU was the same, only running at higher frequencies. This Bloomberg article says that not only it will come with more RAM, but both the GPU and the CPU will be "better". If that only means faster, then there won't be much of an improvement.

I understand. The point is the Switch has a SoC, with everything (CPU and GPU) build in a tiny chip, so I guess it is a little bit different. So I guess it's more comparable to an old iPad and a new one for eg.



RolStoppable said:
Otter said:

If switch sells at $299 they won't drop its price. A $399 Switch Pro is a luxury for existing owners or those looking to have the best experience for core games. 

But the thing about exclusives games is just reminding me why I thought a Switch 2 in 2022 would be better then a mid-gen update. This is really sounding like DSi type situation where they're putting consumers onto a short lived platform (2 years) instead of waiting a bit longer  to put them onto the next generation platform. Unless this is a bigger leap than we're expecting at its essentially the entry level Switch 2.

No, this is a lot more in line with what they said about giving Switch a longer lifecycle before replacement than previous consoles, so it's what would take them to 2025 before a Switch 2.

On topic: It really sucks that Bloomberg demands a subscription to read their articles now.

I mean, if people are blocking ads how else can they get money from the traffic? When those "disable your ad blocker" popups happen, I assume that data gets sent somewhere where companies can see how many people viewed the page with the blocker on vs. not, which then makes those companies want to pay less for ads on the website, making them have to go to a subscription model. If they didn't have that, and their revenue went down, they would produce less content, have less investigative journalism making fun discoveries to us, probably pay all their employees less then they make now, potentially a great deal less, and lay off a % of their workforce while overworking the rest.