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Forums - Gaming - How would you feel if Amazon bought someone big like ubisoft? I think luna launched 1 month ago?

assuming it wasn't a hostile takeover and a deal both parties agreed to, ie; ubisoft wanted to be bought and accepted Amazon's offer, like w Bethesda and Microsoft, then i'd say good for them and maybe they'll make a game that appeals to me enough to eventually consider giving Luna a try.

too many people constantly act like they know what's best for companies instead of the people who actually work there. it's a business, and they're usually going to choose what they think is in the best interest of their company, they don't owe us anything. so if Ubisoft were to agree to be acquired by Amazon I think it would be a fair assumption that they thought about what the pros, cons, risks, etc are. they're not just gonna do it overnight.



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Ka-pi96 said:
FloatingWaffles said:

assuming it wasn't a hostile takeover and a deal both parties agreed to, ie; ubisoft wanted to be bought and accepted Amazon's offer, like w Bethesda and Microsoft, then i'd say good for them and maybe they'll make a game that appeals to me enough to eventually consider giving Luna a try.

too many people constantly act like they know what's best for companies instead of the people who actually work there. it's a business, and they're usually going to choose what they think is in the best interest of their company, they don't owe us anything. so if Ubisoft were to agree to be acquired by Amazon I think it would be a fair assumption that they thought about what the pros, cons, risks, etc are. they're not just gonna do it overnight.

I'd disagree with that. They think about what's in their own best interests. When it comes to selling a company, if they make bank from it they'd do it even if they think the company is going to be worse off in the long run. Once they've sold it they have no reason to give a shit how the company does anymore. That would be different if the people owning/running the company stay there after the sale (as is usually the case with smaller developers), but for a big publicly owned corporation like Ubisoft, that wouldn't be the case.

that's true, but that's always a possibility with any business regardless, acquisition or otherwise. that's why I wrote usually because I guess i'm just trying to be optimistic and hope that if a situation like this would ever happen that the people selling would be decent about it and make sure things would be okay still afterwards, but yeah I guess it can easily go both ways since like you said the people selling don't need to care at all anymore 

i also don't think this is something we'll have to worry about with Ubisoft anytime soon anyway given how long they spent just finally fighting off Vivendi, so I can't imagine they're actively looking to be bought after that 

Last edited by FloatingWaffles - on 17 January 2021

I’d be completely fine. There is no “must play” third party IPs for me these days. If I can’t play something I’ll just play something else. Too much choice these days regardless.

From a narrative point of view, I feel Xbox has a strong stable of studios with more to come. They are largely self sufficient. If Amazon and Google “asset denial” Xbox and PlayStation, Xbox could withstand the loss easier.



Xbox: Best hardware, Game Pass best value, best BC, more 1st party genres and multiplayer titles. 

 

konnichiwa said:
Cerebralbore101 said:

Easy earnable currency? How long do you have to play to get enough coins to unlock everything?

Everything?, their is a 1000 things you can unlock with every week adding more stuff.  It is like getting every car in a Gran Turismo/Forza game. Point is if you want a particular skin/bloodspray/Emotion/country banner it will take a short time to unlock it (based on skill and modes you play).

The goal in gran turismo isn't to collect every car unless you are a freak.  What's the point in owning a Honda fit or shitty ass Lupo? If only to complete cup race and sell the piece of shit.  Hell there are even "good" cars that handle and drive like shit in game.  I guarantee 99.9 percent of gran turismo don't actually try to own all cars in game because more than half of them are shit.

Basically I'm trying to say your analogy sucks.  Might as well compare it to Pokemon gotta catch them all or some crappy f2p/ pay to win game.  Hell even Pokemon players probably try not to catch them all because most are shit like gran turismo.  

So you are left with comparing your game to a mobile f2p game.

Last edited by sethnintendo - on 17 January 2021

sethnintendo said:
konnichiwa said:

Everything?, their is a 1000 things you can unlock with every week adding more stuff.  It is like getting every car in a Gran Turismo/Forza game. Point is if you want a particular skin/bloodspray/Emotion/country banner it will take a short time to unlock it (based on skill and modes you play).

The goal in gran turismo isn't to collect every car unless you are a freak.  What's the point in owning a Honda fit or shitty ass Lupo? If only to complete cup race and sell the piece of shit.  Hell there are even "good" cars that handle and drive like shit in game.  I guarantee 99.9 percent of gran turismo don't actually try to own all cars in game because more than half of them are shit.

Basically I'm trying to say your analogy sucks.  Might as well compare it to Pokemon gotta catch them all or some crappy f2p/ pay to win game.  Hell even Pokemon players probably try not to catch them all because most are shit like gran turismo.  

So you are left with comparing your game to a mobile f2p game.

That's exactly my point!,  Why unlock, a green colour weaponskin/Winter themed character skin/particular weapon execution/Mexico Banner when you would never use it? But if I want I can easily unlock it without spending anything. A look at the community and you see no one is complaining. Want the Honda car you have to play the game for a bit, anyway feel you are commenting to the wrong user tho.






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konnichiwa said:
sethnintendo said:

The goal in gran turismo isn't to collect every car unless you are a freak.  What's the point in owning a Honda fit or shitty ass Lupo? If only to complete cup race and sell the piece of shit.  Hell there are even "good" cars that handle and drive like shit in game.  I guarantee 99.9 percent of gran turismo don't actually try to own all cars in game because more than half of them are shit.

Basically I'm trying to say your analogy sucks.  Might as well compare it to Pokemon gotta catch them all or some crappy f2p/ pay to win game.  Hell even Pokemon players probably try not to catch them all because most are shit like gran turismo.  

So you are left with comparing your game to a mobile f2p game.

That's exactly my point!,  Why unlock, a green colour weaponskin/Winter themed character skin/particular weapon execution/Mexico Banner when you would never use it? But if I want I can easily unlock it without spending anything. A look at the community and you see no one is complaining. Want the Honda car you have to play the game for a bit, anyway feel you are commenting to the wrong user tho.

Hand signal over head.  Yea post went over my head.  My bad but now I understand your point of view.   I have no problem with that way of thinking.



I personally hate amazon so I hope they don't buy anything and the US breaks up Amazon, Google, Microsoft, Apple, Facebook and all big tech basically.



Just a guy who doesn't want to be bored. Also

konnichiwa said:
sethnintendo said:

The goal in gran turismo isn't to collect every car unless you are a freak.  What's the point in owning a Honda fit or shitty ass Lupo? If only to complete cup race and sell the piece of shit.  Hell there are even "good" cars that handle and drive like shit in game.  I guarantee 99.9 percent of gran turismo don't actually try to own all cars in game because more than half of them are shit.

Basically I'm trying to say your analogy sucks.  Might as well compare it to Pokemon gotta catch them all or some crappy f2p/ pay to win game.  Hell even Pokemon players probably try not to catch them all because most are shit like gran turismo.  

So you are left with comparing your game to a mobile f2p game.

That's exactly my point!,  Why unlock, a green colour weaponskin/Winter themed character skin/particular weapon execution/Mexico Banner when you would never use it? But if I want I can easily unlock it without spending anything. A look at the community and you see no one is complaining. Want the Honda car you have to play the game for a bit, anyway feel you are commenting to the wrong user tho.

The thing is I can catch every Poke'mon I want without having to grind. I just play naturally and get every one that I want. In a game like League of Legends, if I wanted to collect every champion that I thought was fun, I'd have to play for hundreds upon hundreds of hours. The question is, is Gears 5 like Poke'mon, or is it like League of Legends? How long would it take to get 25% of all character skins? How long will it take three years from now when there are even more skins? Serious question BTW. Not hypothetical. Please answer.

@The Thread In General...

I think a lot of companies that try to strong arm their way into the game industry will do whatever it takes to maximize profit. If that means weaponizing FOMO, adding MTX, and actively trying to punish you for leaving to play another game, then they will do it. "If you leave to play another game, then you'll miss out on the battle pass, and this new LIMITED TIME ONLY SKIN!!!! BUY NOW!" They'll employ more skinner box techniques to keep you hooked on a game you don't really enjoy. A game can be compelling, but not fun. If you ever find yourself cursing at an online multiplayer game guess what? You've been played. The company has you mentally conditioned to play the game at that point. You aren't having fun anymore. You are there to entice your friends to play, and keep the playercount up, which keeps the game alive. You are the product.



Only company I trust to buy up is Microsoft because they will put it on Gamepass and continue to save me money while still allowing me to download the games for offline play. Amazon, Google, or anyone else requiring persistent online play and not having a subscription model for games can go away. I'm a 29 year old who doesn't have time to replay games over and over again (except Paper Mario series), so "owning" each game and spending more money that way than $10-15 a month is a silly waste of my money.



Ka-pi96 said:
Cerebralbore101 said:

The thing is I can catch every Poke'mon I want without having to grind. I just play naturally and get every one that I want. In a game like League of Legends, if I wanted to collect every champion that I thought was fun, I'd have to play for hundreds upon hundreds of hours. The question is, is Gears 5 like Poke'mon, or is it like League of Legends? How long would it take to get 25% of all character skins? How long will it take three years from now when there are even more skins? Serious question BTW. Not hypothetical. Please answer.

@The Thread In General...

I think a lot of companies that try to strong arm their way into the game industry will do whatever it takes to maximize profit. If that means weaponizing FOMO, adding MTX, and actively trying to punish you for leaving to play another game, then they will do it. "If you leave to play another game, then you'll miss out on the battle pass, and this new LIMITED TIME ONLY SKIN!!!! BUY NOW!" They'll employ more skinner box techniques to keep you hooked on a game you don't really enjoy. A game can be compelling, but not fun. If you ever find yourself cursing at an online multiplayer game guess what? You've been played. The company has you mentally conditioned to play the game at that point. You aren't having fun anymore. You are there to entice your friends to play, and keep the playercount up, which keeps the game alive. You are the product.

Can you though?

Even if you ignore the latest games which are missing a bunch of Pokemon, GameFreak have a habit of making catching them all a pain in the butt. Whether it's limited time download only Pokemon, a chunk being exclusive to a certain version, or even just exceedingly rare Pokemon (IIRC Feebas was only catchable on 3 randomly selected water tiles in the whole game for Ruby/Sapphire and if trying to fish in every tile until you find the right one isn't grindy... then what is?) you absolutely are going to need to go out of your way and put in extra effort for a lot of them.

Granted, you did say only those you wanted, rather than all of them. But if you're doing it that way you could say the same about literally any F2P game. I'm sure there are plenty of people that can play those games casually and still get all of the stuff they want, just like a casual Pokemon player could catch any they want. But neither of those people are going to be able to get them all so if they want them all... the Pokemon player is just as shit out of luck as the F2P player.

Nah, I've completed a Poke'dex before. It takes maybe 200 hours. I've played over two thousand hours of League and still don't even have 1/3rd of the champions.