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dmillos on 08 January 2021
The_Liquid_Laser said:

I thought it was weird that the Switch total was lower this week.  I looked at the previous 4 weeks for reference.

2020 Switch sales (for weeks listed)

AmericasEuropeAsiaOceaniaGlobal
week 49         549,686         350,474         284,978         42,133         1,275,788
week 50          621,997         358,182         366,400         49,520         1,396,099
week 51         677,811         416,717         394,266         57,642         1,546,436
week 52         467,036         266,197         388,184         38,577         1,159,994
WoW change-31%-36%-2%-33%-25%

Sales this week are down by about 1/3 WoW in every region except Asia.  Also this is the lowest holiday week for each region other than Asia.  I suspect that there are probably shortages in a lot of areas, especially for the base model which seems to be the model that is by far the most popular.

Hi @The_Liquid_Laser I don't have the region break down like you do, It is very interesting to see how little it dropped in Asia, I wonder if that has anything to do with China or maybe there are other explanations.

I also think the numbers could have been higher, but looking back at last year, this is what I found:

Last year this week dropped 40% so in a way  this year was a big improvement.



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Switch Data Analysis: May Update (NS has record best May Year 5)

PS5 Data Analysis: OCT Update (PS5 Second best console after 12 Months)

XS Data Analysis: APR Update (XS hits a road bump)

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derpysquirtle64 on 08 January 2021
SilenceDeadly said:

Damn I don't post much here but people still want in denial that Ps5 will crush anything amuse me, denial is strong. Gonna be a rough years for you all, also rough years for Nintendo haters.

Stay safe & don't panic to much once Ps5 starts the absolute domination in 2022.

Denial is strong because your assumption that PS5 will crush everything is not based on any facts. There are no proofs that it will be the case. The only info about PS5 sales performance we have his that it currently outpacing PS4. But it doesn't prove that this will be the case moving forward. Xbox One was also outperforming 360 for quite some time initially but ended up selling almost 2 times less.



 

curl-6 on 08 January 2021
SilenceDeadly said:

You´re absolutely right in your whole post but you´re missing 1 thing:

- Ps5 will demolish Ps4 performance. 

Why and how though?

What about the PS5 will lead to it demolishing PS4? It doesn't seem to have many advantages over PS4 in terms of factors that affect sales.

I'm not saying it can't potentially sell more, but I can't see any evidence to say with confidence that it will "demolish" its predecessor.



Bet with Liquidlaser: I say PS5 and Xbox Series will sell more than 56 million combined by the end of 2023.

brute on 08 January 2021
Dulfite said:
trunkswd said:

Crazy to think that the DS and PS2 are even possible now. It all depends on how long Nintendo supports the system. With the rumored 4K mid-gen upgrade possibly coming out this year, I don't see a Switch successor until spring 2024 or later. 

Release dates:

3ds Regular - March 2011, New 3ds - Late 2014 (3ds regular came out about 2 years after DSi).

Ds Regular - November 2004, DSi - April 2009 (DS Regular came out 1.67 years after GBA SP).

GBA - March 2001, GBA SP - February 2003

I'd say based on this (their home consoles don't have a history of more powerful/efficient versions like their handhelds), it's safe to predict Switch 2 would come out 1.67-2 years after Switch Pro. If the Pro comes this year, then Switch 2 should come no later than 2023 unless they buck their pattern.

2023 seems like a good time to launch a Switch successor. Switch should still be selling well at that time but will be in decline being it will have entered its 7th year.



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The_Liquid_Laser on 08 January 2021
dmillos said:
The_Liquid_Laser said:

I thought it was weird that the Switch total was lower this week.  I looked at the previous 4 weeks for reference.

2020 Switch sales (for weeks listed)

AmericasEuropeAsiaOceaniaGlobal
week 49         549,686         350,474         284,978         42,133         1,275,788
week 50          621,997         358,182         366,400         49,520         1,396,099
week 51         677,811         416,717         394,266         57,642         1,546,436
week 52         467,036         266,197         388,184         38,577         1,159,994
WoW change-31%-36%-2%-33%-25%

Sales this week are down by about 1/3 WoW in every region except Asia.  Also this is the lowest holiday week for each region other than Asia.  I suspect that there are probably shortages in a lot of areas, especially for the base model which seems to be the model that is by far the most popular.

Hi @The_Liquid_Laser I don't have the region break down like you do, It is very interesting to see how little it dropped in Asia, I wonder if that has anything to do with China or maybe there are other explanations.

I also think the numbers could have been higher, but looking back at last year, this is what I found:

Last year this week dropped 40% so in a way  this year was a big improvement.

Ok, that is a good find.  Perhaps this is normal after all?  I think the portion of the week that happens before Dec 25 does make a difference.

Also, I believe Asia dropped only a little because of Japan.  Their holiday season seems to happen slightly later than much of the rest of the world.  That may be true in some other Asian cultures as well, but Japan contributes a very large portion of the sales in the Asian category.



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dmillos on 09 January 2021
The_Liquid_Laser said:

Ok, that is a good find.  Perhaps this is normal after all?  I think the portion of the week that happens before Dec 25 does make a difference.

Also, I believe Asia dropped only a little because of Japan.  Their holiday season seems to happen slightly later than much of the rest of the world.  That may be true in some other Asian cultures as well, but Japan contributes a very large portion of the sales in the Asian category.

Hi @The_Liquid_Laser I thought just like you did, that the amount of days before chirstmas does play a vital role in any growth for that week. Your comment made me want to explore that idea, I think you will like what I found. Basically I looked at every week that included christmas eve for every console, and measured its growth:

A very interesting pattern shows up, when there are at least 5 days before Christmas, almost all consoles increase on this week. And the relation is strictly proportional to the amount of days before. 2020 Seems to be the only exception to this rule. 

Like I mentioned before, a chart like this doesn't give us any answers, it just sparks curiosity and it brings the question of why would something like this happen?

Obviously stock shortages come to mind, or perhaps that the numbers could get revised later, or the lack of new games affected the week? There are many possibilities, what do you think could have happened?

Here is also a chart of days before vs growth (excluding this year):

This is probably why you and I (and probably others) were actually hoping for the NS to have higher sales than last week.

Anyways this shouldn't take away from the fact that having 1.2M units sold in one week isn't an amazing number, maybe the bar was just too high from the previous week.



DAMA (Month Aligned) Gap Charts Explanation

Switch Data Analysis: May Update (NS has record best May Year 5)

PS5 Data Analysis: OCT Update (PS5 Second best console after 12 Months)

XS Data Analysis: APR Update (XS hits a road bump)

trunkswd on 09 January 2021

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PS5 vs Xbox Series X|S vs Switch Launch Sales Comparison Through Week 7

This weekly mini-series compares the aligned launch sales of the PlayStation 5, Xbox Series X|S, and Nintendo Switch. 

It should be noted the Nintendo Switch and Xbox Series X|S had a worldwide launch, while the PlayStation 5 launch was split over the course of two weeks. Also, the Nintendo Switch launched in March 2017, while the PlayStation 5 and Xbox Series X|S launched during the holidays in November 2020.

PS5 Vs. Xbox Series X|S vs Switch Global:

  1. PS5: 4,480,728
  2. Switch: 2,659,582
  3. XSX|S: 2,401,386

Through the first seven weeks available worldwide the PlayStation 5 is ahead of the Switch and Xbox Series X|S by a fair margin. The PS5 is ahead of the Switch by 1.82 million units and is 2.08 million units ahead of the Xbox Series X|S. 

The PS5 has sold 4.48 million in seven weeks worldwide, while the Switch sold 2.66 million units and the Xbox Series X|S 2.40 million units. 

Looking at the marketshare through six weeks, the PlayStation 5 currently leads. The PS5 has a 46.9 percent marketshare, the Switch sits at 27.9 percent, and the Xbox Series X|S at 25.2 percent.

The Switch didn't reach current PS5 sales until week 21.

PS5 Vs. Xbox Series X|S vs Switch US:

  1. PS5: 1,824,313
  2. XSX|S: 1,323,838
  3. Switch: 1,029,907

Through the first seven weeks available in the US the PlayStation 5 is ahead of the Switch and Xbox Series X|S. The PS5 is ahead of the Xbox Series X|S by 500,475 units and is 794,406 units ahead of the Switch. 

The PS5 has sold 1.82 million in seven weeks in the US, while the Xbox Series X|S sold 1.32 million units and the Switch 1.03 million units. 

Looking at the marketshare through seven weeks, the PlayStation 5 currently leads. The PS5 has a 43.7 percent marketshare, the Xbox Series X|S sits at 31.7 percent, and the Switch at 24.6 percent.

The Switch didn't reach current PS5 sales until week 24 and current Xbox Series X|S sales until week 13.

PS5 Vs. Xbox Series X|S vs Switch Europe (6 weeks):

  1. PS5: 1,631,001
  2. Switch: 709,209
  3. XSX|S: 654,321

The PlayStation 5 has been available for one week less than the Xbox Series X|S in Europe. After six weeks the PS5 is ahead of the Switch by 921,792 units and is 976,680 units ahead of the Xbox Series X|S. 

The PS5 has sold 1.63 million in six weeks in Europe, while the Switch sold 0.71 million units and the Xbox Series X|S 0.65 million units. 

Looking at the marketshare through six weeks, the PlayStation 5 currently leads. The PS5 has a 54.5 percent marketshare, the Switch sits at 23.7 percent, and the Xbox Series X|S at 21.8 percent.

The Switch didn't reach current PS5 sales until week 29.

PS5 Vs. Xbox Series X|S vs Switch Japan:

  1. Switch: 651,891
  2. PS5: 257,138
  3. XSX|S: 32,275

Through the first seven weeks available in Japan the Switch is ahead of the PlayStation 5 and Xbox Series X|S by a wide margin. The Switch is ahead of the PS5 by 394,753 units and is 619,616 units ahead of the Xbox Series X|S. 

The Switch has sold 651,891 units in six weeks in Japan, while the PS5 has sold 257,138 units, and the Xbox Series X|S 32,275 units.

Looking at the marketshare through six weeks, the Switch currently leads. The Switch has a 69.3 percent marketshare, the PS5 sits at 27.3 percent, and the Xbox Series X|S at 3.4 percent.



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dmillos on 09 January 2021

I was looking at the PS4 and it seems like the next few weeks should be very interesting, They might start showing us a bit of the reality of the PS5 shortages. Right now it seems like PS is able to ship out around 300k consistently, therefore if that is true next week it will stop a 5 week streak that the PS4 has:



DAMA (Month Aligned) Gap Charts Explanation

Switch Data Analysis: May Update (NS has record best May Year 5)

PS5 Data Analysis: OCT Update (PS5 Second best console after 12 Months)

XS Data Analysis: APR Update (XS hits a road bump)

Kjartan on 09 January 2021
dmillos said:
Kjartan said:

Holy shit less than 700'000 units sold for PS4 + PS5 +XB1 +XBX/S combined for Christmas week, these numbers are abysmal.

I just checked and this is the first time ever, according to vgchartz, that the Playstation AND Xbox brand together fail to sell at least 1 million+ units in this big holiday week.

Hi @Kjartan This was an interesting fact that motivated me to check, Some years it is tough to determine what is the equivalent for this week, I did it with all the weeks that included Christmas eve sales (they must end after the 23rd).