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Mnementh said:
AngryLittleAlchemist said:

Yes, you literally, literally can. That's what cat calling is, it's sexualizing someone who's just a normal human being trying to go about their day. You could argue that the issue with cat calling is that it's an action not a thought, but the issue with and what makes sexualization of young teens wrong is that sexualizing that in your mind can lead to a distortion of reality, where you start normalizing things that aren't normal. And in general, it's probably better for your mental health if, you know, you don't go your entire life feeling like a pedo because you find sexualizing real teenagers normal. 

You might have had a point if you stuck to purely fictional stuff, but I think this is going way too far. You might have meant in the context of teenagers acting sexual with people of their age, but that isn't a line of defense for the conversation you were having with Ice because it doesn't make sense in that context, and isn't appropriate in here at all. 

So, going around in a game murdering lots of people is normalizing murder in your mind?

"You might have had a point if you stuck to purely fictional stuff"

Don't reply to comments you don't read 



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AngryLittleAlchemist said:
sundin13 said:

I don't think that changes anything in regards to your cat-calling example. People don't cross the line from not cat-calling to cat-calling just because a lot of attractive ladies walked by. It isn't a product of the number of sexual thoughts, it is the interference of a separate variable. Taking action is largely distinct from attraction, and I would need to be presented actual evidence demonstrating that having sexual thoughts creates actual harm.

It seems like negative thoughts towards yourself regarding sexual guilt would likely be more damaging to one's mental health than a completely normal sexual thought, which I wouldn't call "bad" or "unhealthy". This feels like an offshoot of classical religious arguments towards masturbation and sexuality, which seem to be far more self-evidently damaging than entirely normal sexual thoughts and entirely harmless sexual expression such as masturbation and playing ecchi games. 

You're missing the forest for the trees, cat calling is an example of an action caused by someone sexualizing someone who is just an ordinary human going about their business. The point being: You absolutely CAN sexualize things that might have an inherent sexual quality to them (like another human being). It doesn't matter that people who are pubescent technically have a sexual aspect to their development, you can still sexualize them, and that's what's wrong when we're talking about minors. 

You took half a post which was just about how you can sexualize human beings (which are inherently sexual) and made it about whether someone does an action or not, or whether fictional risquee porn is wrong, when that's literally not the point of my post and I already addressed those two things right here:

"You could argue that the issue with cat calling is that it's an action not a thought, but the issue with and what makes sexualization of young teens wrong is that sexualizing that in your mind can lead to a distortion of reality, where you start normalizing things that aren't normal. "

"You might have had a point if you stuck to purely fictional stuff"

Your two nitpicks make no sense because, they were already addressed. Unless what you're really defending is having sexual thoughts of real minors and indulging in them, in which case just be honest about it, because trying to misinterpret my post as something it's not isn't helping you.

Personally, while I get it's culturally taboo, I don't really care if people indulge in fiction. But when the discussion goes to such stupid lengths as "you can't sexualize minors past a certain age because they already have the capacity to be sexual since they have gone through puberty", I'm sorry, but that's just a dumb thing to say.

Seems we are getting our wires crossed somewhere, so I'll clarify and move on.

I believe that you can "sexualize" anything. 

I don't believe that having repeated sexual thoughts causes distortions in reality. I believe that it is other variables, not the sexual thought itself, which dictates how we interact with those thoughts. 

I don't believe that there is anything wrong, bad or unhealthy about having sexual thoughts regarding individuals, including teenagers. Attraction is not a conscious process and as such there is no reason to feel bad or guilty about such a natural process. You are in control over your actions and you have a responsibility to act a certain way, however no one should feel guilty for mere attraction, or sexual thoughts.

I similarly don't believe that having such thoughts and indulging in such thoughts in non-destructive ways leads to harm (such as masturbation and playing erotic games). If harm occurs, I believe it is the fault of separate variables, similar to how having sexual thoughts of adult women does not lead to sexual violence. If sexual violence occurs, we should criticize the cause of the violence, not the sexuality. 



Such a shame have all the games on ps4 and there great on rail shooters.
Its "pedo content" is way to overrated.


Seems most people here dont watch to much anime.



 

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Ka-pi96 said:
ice said:

Not buying it doesn’t change that there’s games enabling this kind of attraction as normal. If you want to make a game for horny adults it should features adults. 

The only thing making them "not adults" in the game is because somebody arbitrarily said "this character is x years old". So all they'd have to do for you to be ok with it is say "this character is 20 years old"... right?

You right, they aren’t school girls or anything playing into that fetish. My bad. 



Dallinor said:
HoangNhatAnh said:

Gal Gun Returns is a remaster of the original that came out on the Xbox 360 back in 2011 and then, on the PS3 a year later (albeit Japan only). The sequel, Gal Gun: Double Peace came out on the PS4/Vita in 2015 (in JP) and 2016 (in US & EU). Funny how there wasn't much "muh pedophilia" whining back then. And then, Gal Gun 2 came out in 2018.
So there has been theoretically 9 years' worth of data and 3 games, so... where's this uptick in pedophilia? Anyone? Anyone?

Nobody was aware of it until it's given a prominent news placing regarding platform censorship issues.

What uptick? How would you even quantify that?

This game features high school girls in their underwear, the ability to remove their skirts, a character who is a 12-14 year old given her class listing, and it comes with a scented bookmark featuring said underage poster girl with the title 'smells like a girl'.

Ask Sony and MS fans who defended censorship, not me.



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Ka-pi96 said:
ice said:

You right, they aren’t school girls or anything playing into that fetish. My bad. 

Why is liking certain clothes an issue? Adults can, and do, wear those clothes too.

 Let’s just ignore the age, clothes, and setting as a package. Lol Might as well not even discuss this game, which frankly I think I’m done doing so as I spoke my piece. If you see no issues and want to enjoy this game, cool. I’m not stopping anyone.  



AngryLittleAlchemist said:
Mnementh said:

So, going around in a game murdering lots of people is normalizing murder in your mind?

"You might have had a point if you stuck to purely fictional stuff"

Don't reply to comments you don't read 

So fictional murderers are fine, then fictional sexuality are the same.



vivster said:
shikamaru317 said:

Yeah, I don't really understand these western attacks on ecchi games. Yes, they feature sexualized girls who are underage by western standards, but there is no explicit nudity in them (devs self censor any nipple or crotch shots with flashes of light or steam), no actual sex scenes, no rape, no heavy violence or gore, usually very little language compared to western games, the girls are usually anime stylized instead of designed to look realistic.

Having played a few Ecchi games myself, particularly Senran Kagura games, I found them to be quite tame compared to things I've seen in western games. In western games we have things like Abby getting f*cked from behind in TLOU 2 with her "tits" out, full frontal nudity character creation in Cyberpunk with multiple breast sizes, nipple styles, penis sizes and pubic hair styles, Lara Craft dying in many graphic ways in the 3 games of the Tomb Raider remake trilogy, gory Mortal Kombat fatalities, and lots more things that are far more explicit than anything in these console ecchi games that Sony and now MS are trying to censor. 

Western society still has trouble understanding that sexuality starts long before an arbitrary age limit. Also because being outraged about underage people gives you lots of internet points.

If they want to set a hard limit on that, set your Age of consent to europe standerds, which is 14-15.

If we do that, you'll have no arguments from me.