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method114 on 21 December 2020
KratosLives said:

So crprojekt went from the best/supporting studio to most depceptive. What they did is much worse than the nomansky team. 2020 may be the worst year ever. Shit keeps getting worse.

It's been a horrible year for so many people. It makes me feel guilty cause this whole thing has resulted in one of the best years of my life. The worst thing that has happened to me is I lost most of my bonuses this year. That was always extra money for me though my salary is all I rely on. I got to stay home and work most of this year and now my boss is working on getting us 1 day of working from home permanently. I seriously sat at home and played so many games during work it was amazing.

I got a 3080 10 days before Cyberpunk came out. Played the game and beat it 42hours total. Easily an 8/10 for me. Had none of the issues others had.



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KratosLives on 22 December 2020
Dulfite said:
KratosLives said:

So crprojekt went from the best/supporting studio to most depceptive. What they did is much worse than the nomansky team. 2020 may be the worst year ever. Shit keeps getting worse.

Still have two weeks to go. Any predictions to round out the year?

Well after writing that, the whole covid thing started again in sydney australia, holidays cancelled,  and now i'm hearing other strains from usa and uk have developed. Looks like a great new year ahead..



method114 on 30 December 2020
Dulfite said:
DevilRising said:

Perhaps they should get better at game development? IMO, the first two Witcher games played like hot garbage, and beloved Witcher 3 still plays VERY slippery. They had literal years to make a half-decent, mostly-polished game out of Cyberpunk, yet this happens. I'm sorry, but CDPR are a joke. Worse than Bethesda.

It's funny too, because I've noticed that almost ALL of the big "AAA" games that come out that have major bugs, seem unfinished or lack polish, and need major patching, are western developed games. Most "AAA" Japanese games do not have these kinds of issues. Food for thought.

There are definitely differences in work ethic across continents. Asians work, and are okay with working, more than any other continent. I believe there were protests in Japan celebrating the new Emperor when they imposed workers take days off work. 

Americans work less than Asians for sure (I think around 40 hours on average last I checked), and Europeans work even less on average (like 34 hours per week). So 1 year of development in the US is more like 1.17 years in Europe. Asians work I think over 50 hours a week on average. And that's just their hours worked, not even comparing mental focus, there is definitely going to be a difference in productivity between Japanese developers and a Polish one.

Yea I got into these videos about what it's like to live life as a black person in Japan (don't ask how). It's great youtube channel though and I got obsessed with watching it. 

One of the people they interviewed talked about how the worst thing about it is the mindset people have in Japan about working. He said people would look down on him because he had hobbies outside of work. That people would just ask why not work more if you have the time.

He actually ended up having to leave his company and find a place that was a little more western in their work habits. 



Dulfite on 30 December 2020
method114 said:
Dulfite said:

There are definitely differences in work ethic across continents. Asians work, and are okay with working, more than any other continent. I believe there were protests in Japan celebrating the new Emperor when they imposed workers take days off work. 

Americans work less than Asians for sure (I think around 40 hours on average last I checked), and Europeans work even less on average (like 34 hours per week). So 1 year of development in the US is more like 1.17 years in Europe. Asians work I think over 50 hours a week on average. And that's just their hours worked, not even comparing mental focus, there is definitely going to be a difference in productivity between Japanese developers and a Polish one.

Yea I got into these videos about what it's like to live life as a black person in Japan (don't ask how). It's great youtube channel though and I got obsessed with watching it. 

One of the people they interviewed talked about how the worst thing about it is the mindset people have in Japan about working. He said people would look down on him because he had hobbies outside of work. That people would just ask why not work more if you have the time.

He actually ended up having to leave his company and find a place that was a little more western in their work habits. 

That is interesting! Cultural differences are fascinating!



VAMatt on 30 December 2020
SvennoJ said:
Dulfite said:

There are definitely differences in work ethic across continents. Asians work, and are okay with working, more than any other continent. I believe there were protests in Japan celebrating the new Emperor when they imposed workers take days off work. 

Americans work less than Asians for sure (I think around 40 hours on average last I checked), and Europeans work even less on average (like 34 hours per week). So 1 year of development in the US is more like 1.17 years in Europe. Asians work I think over 50 hours a week on average. And that's just their hours worked, not even comparing mental focus, there is definitely going to be a difference in productivity between Japanese developers and a Polish one.

And then thee're this little fact

At the other end of the spectrum, Luxembourg, the most productive country, has an average workweek of just 29 hours.
https://time.com/4621185/worker-productivity-countries/

Especially in a creative job that requires a lot of thinking, working longer hours drives productivity down and increases the chances of buggy code. It's well known in software development yet crunch culture goes on. Patch now, fix later. A patch usually creates more problems, if not now, then down the line.

As an example of Japanese games, PD started over from scratch with GT Sport, the right thing to do. Legacy code eventually becomes too much of a burden, just look at Bethesda with Skyrim. And TLG is the poster child of, we'll release when it's ready. (Actually still runs pretty shoddy on base ps4, but at least they didn't try to cram it onto ps3!)

Luxembourg is not the most productive country in reality.  It looks like that because of their banking businesses and their tiny population. 

At the end of the day, countries where people work hard (not necessarily long hours, but its often one and the same) are more productive (per capita) than those where people don't work as hard, assuming that they have access to tools to maximize their output. 

In other words, capital investment plays a huge roll too.  That is why the US often has higher productivity numbers than most other countries (Americans have more and better tools to make them more productive).  The same is true of many of the wealthy European countries.  For whatever reason, Asian countries tend not to invest as heavily in the tools to make people more productive.  So, even though they work a lot, they aren't able to produce as much.  



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method114 on 31 December 2020
Dulfite said:
method114 said:

Yea I got into these videos about what it's like to live life as a black person in Japan (don't ask how). It's great youtube channel though and I got obsessed with watching it. 

One of the people they interviewed talked about how the worst thing about it is the mindset people have in Japan about working. He said people would look down on him because he had hobbies outside of work. That people would just ask why not work more if you have the time.

He actually ended up having to leave his company and find a place that was a little more western in their work habits. 

That is interesting! Cultural differences are fascinating!

Yep that's why I got obsessed with the videos just listening to these peoples stories about the culture. This one woman said a little girl came up to her during a sporting event I think it was and licked her skin because she thought it would taste like chocolate lol. She didn't get offended or anything she thought it was funny as well.