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Azzanation said:

Whats really interesting is that it isnt a cross gen game either. Curious to know if that will change as time goes on, or if it will remain a Series X/S game.

Maybe it's elitist of me to say this, but I kinda hope it stays full next-gen, personally. I mean both for selfish reasons and also for the sake of the mini-fridge and speaker. Give people more and clearer reasons to upgrade. I mean they don't need a lot of those reasons right now while there's a shortage of mini-fridges owing to the most hardcore gamers buying right away as usual, but y'know, by say next fall when it starts being more about average gamers...I think more incentive to upgrade starts to become key.



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The original is still one of my favorite games ever, and I still play it regularly. The 2005 prequel was a huge disappointment, though. Hopefully a fresh new perspective will breathe new life into this franchise. Here's hoping it does a good job of modernizing the PD formula while still maintaining some of the core aspects of the original's super-spy gameplay, like lots of cool gadgets, actual objectives in single player that get more complex on higher difficulties, and lots of cool guns with interesting secondary modes. Having highly customizable bots in the Combat Simulator like the original did and Laptop Gun sentry mode that's actually good (the one in PDZ sucked) would help, too.



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NobleTeam360 said:

Why do people continue to insist on using the "AAAA" thing?

No idea. The AAAA thing was only in The Initiative's earliest job listings in 2018, was removed on later job listings, and the head of the studio has played AAAA down multiple times in interviews since, saying that he wants the studio to be small and agile, instead of huge and slow (all games that could be classed as AAAA so far were developed by huge teams in like 5 or more years). These gaming sites continuing to call the game AAAA in articles when it isn't AAAA is really going to drive expectations to ridiculous levels and cause disappointment when the game releases. I hate irresponsible journalism. 



Chrkeller said:

I loathe trailers that show zero gameplay. I got zero idea what I am suppose to learn about the game.

Indeed.

As cool as it is to have Perfect Dark back, just what is the point of a trailer like this. Should've been more bombastic. But I assume MS is going to have an event where they show off 1st gameplay for the last year of CG/ in game announcements they've had.

So, there's that to look forward to at least.



Jaicee said:
Azzanation said:

Whats really interesting is that it isnt a cross gen game either. Curious to know if that will change as time goes on, or if it will remain a Series X/S game.

Maybe it's elitist of me to say this, but I kinda hope it stays full next-gen, personally. I mean both for selfish reasons and also for the sake of the mini-fridge and speaker. Give people more and clearer reasons to upgrade. I mean they don't need a lot of those reasons right now while there's a shortage of mini-fridges owing to the most hardcore gamers buying right away as usual, but y'know, by say next fall when it starts being more about average gamers...I think more incentive to upgrade starts to become key.

Its fine, if it makes the game better than i am all in. At least now they wont have excuses not to be able to do great A.I on the newer CPUs. Even though the N64 did amazing A.I on a CPU you will find better in watches.

twintail said:
Chrkeller said:

I loathe trailers that show zero gameplay. I got zero idea what I am suppose to learn about the game.

Indeed.

As cool as it is to have Perfect Dark back, just what is the point of a trailer like this. Should've been more bombastic. But I assume MS is going to have an event where they show off 1st gameplay for the last year of CG/ in game announcements they've had.

So, there's that to look forward to at least.

The difference between this trailer and lets say an E3 trailer is that no one asked for it, we got something out of nothing. This trailer is to get the hype going and the wheels rolling. We officially know its legit now. Hoping we see gameplay soon, however the game is probably still is a long way off. 



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Azzanation said:
Jaicee said:

Maybe it's elitist of me to say this, but I kinda hope it stays full next-gen, personally. I mean both for selfish reasons and also for the sake of the mini-fridge and speaker. Give people more and clearer reasons to upgrade. I mean they don't need a lot of those reasons right now while there's a shortage of mini-fridges owing to the most hardcore gamers buying right away as usual, but y'know, by say next fall when it starts being more about average gamers...I think more incentive to upgrade starts to become key.

Its fine, if it makes the game better than i am all in. At least now they wont have excuses not to be able to do great A.I on the newer CPUs. Even though the N64 did amazing A.I on a CPU you will find better in watches.

twintail said:

Indeed.

As cool as it is to have Perfect Dark back, just what is the point of a trailer like this. Should've been more bombastic. But I assume MS is going to have an event where they show off 1st gameplay for the last year of CG/ in game announcements they've had.

So, there's that to look forward to at least.

The difference between this trailer and lets say an E3 trailer is that no one asked for it, we got something out of nothing. This trailer is to get the hype going and the wheels rolling. We officially know its legit now. Hoping we see gameplay soon, however the game is probably still is a long way off. 

The issue I have with this is not so much the trailer itself, but rather that it is just another MS reveal that is just so devoid of anything tangible for the audience.

Like, if MS had done a better job of their new game showings this year, I wouldn't see this trailer as a problem. Like you said, it's to get the hype going. And that's a fair point because ultimately what these sort of trailers can do.

But another one? It just feels so night and day compared to what Sony and Nintendo are doing. They aren't free of these sort of reveals either, but they have a lot more gameplay-esque reveals that do a better job of starting the hype cycle.

I do believe they have a bombastic gameplay based event coming some time, so I do look forward to that, whenever it is. 



twintail said:
Azzanation said:

Its fine, if it makes the game better than i am all in. At least now they wont have excuses not to be able to do great A.I on the newer CPUs. Even though the N64 did amazing A.I on a CPU you will find better in watches.

The difference between this trailer and lets say an E3 trailer is that no one asked for it, we got something out of nothing. This trailer is to get the hype going and the wheels rolling. We officially know its legit now. Hoping we see gameplay soon, however the game is probably still is a long way off. 

The issue I have with this is not so much the trailer itself, but rather that it is just another MS reveal that is just so devoid of anything tangible for the audience.

Like, if MS had done a better job of their new game showings this year, I wouldn't see this trailer as a problem. Like you said, it's to get the hype going. And that's a fair point because ultimately what these sort of trailers can do.

But another one? It just feels so night and day compared to what Sony and Nintendo are doing. They aren't free of these sort of reveals either, but they have a lot more gameplay-esque reveals that do a better job of starting the hype cycle.

I do believe they have a bombastic gameplay based event coming some time, so I do look forward to that, whenever it is. 

I cannot see the issue with announcing a game especially by surprising there customers without showing gameplay. We might be different here, I don't look at past or present trailers and think to myself "Hmm just another trailer" I see this as "We have a new PD in development! and it seems to be in really good hands with The Initiative." 

I am also a huge Metroid Prime fan and all Nintendo showed was a heading, nothing else, even after 2 years.. it doesn't bother me as much as it would others, as long as i know its coming, that's all i need. Plenty to play and distract me until they arrivals.

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PotentHerbs said:

This is coming from a reliable Xbox insider:

- 3rd Person stealth action game in a Cyberpunk setting, core is on stealth.
- Rand heard it is based on seasonal content, not sure what it means but knows ''Episodic'' doesn't fit what they are doing
- Not a cinematic game, don't expect a Uncharted/TLOU like project
- Jez says that the ''AAAA'' stuff created wrong expectations, studio is meant to be small and nimble(I don't know what this means), not trying to do a ''GOW Killer'' or whatever.
- He says that they are going to do experimental formulas, they are going to be more similar to Remedy rather than Naughty Dog or other bigger studios.
- Rand says that the episodic stuff falls more in line with the Black Mirror comparison(From Xbox ERA), independent ''episodes'' connected in the overall scheme of things.
- Expect to hear about it soon, maybe TGA.

Sounds promising aside from the "seasonal" content. That's open to interpretation though.

I just hope it's not gonna be one of those "Games as a service, a hyuk!!" ideas.

NobleTeam360 said:

Why do people continue to insist on using the "AAAA" thing?

That's what I wanted to know. Is it about having an even bigger budget?

BasilZero said:
NobleTeam360 said:

Why do people continue to insist on using the "AAAA" thing?

From this past August

https://venturebeat.com/2020/08/26/the-initiatives-first-game-whats-the-so-called-aaaa-studio-making/

Ah, thanks. :)



Finally Microsoft understands. I don't get how they were going into a gamepass future without thinking of first party titles. That will be mandatory, and i'm glad they are doing so. Feel like a Banjo game might be in development now that they let it be in Smash and that they are reviving franchises players want.



The last PD game was painfully average at best.