Didn't ignore anything.. giving you the facts.  Xbone still had their biggest launch at the time with a higher pricing and the E3 flubs.  They were sold out for a bit afterwards.. no different from what's happening now.  And yes, gamepass, somehow still a viable substitute in some minds that being able to play last gen stuff and 3rd party means it's ok that we have nothing right now that can actually take advantage of a newer more powerful system.  If gamepass is so awesome, then why even buy the new system now if the old is just as capable?  And yes.. many new factors at play, but history tends to repeat itself.  sometimes it's like, fool me once..., fool me twice..., fool me three times..., guess if this gen plays the same, it'll be fool me four.. *shrugs*  

Will just see how things trend 6 months into this gen.. 

Playing on a phone with input lag, and a screen smaller than a Switch is so inferior of a gaming option that you shouldn't even bother with it. If MS seriously thinks this is a realistic option then they've lost their minds. If they are going to keep their poached games off PS5, then they should just admit that their "Pro-Consumer" stance was all a bunch of spin to cover up the fact that they needed to expand their market outside of console gaming to survive.

How strange that Microsoft games are “poached” and yet you also talk about Ratchet and Spider-Man, made by a “poached” developer and a moneyhat IP, Demons Souls which was a PS3 moneyhat, Horizon 2 which is a “poached” developer, etc etc lol.I think you’re making too big a deal out of xCloud. MS has repeatedly said local hardware will always be best and xCloud is just a convenience. It’s just an option. As for the performance, it works great on my home WiFi with just an iPhone. I’m sure on tablets and bigger phones the experience is pretty good. But again, just an option. I’m not going to bother replying again, this whole poached nonsense is just stupid console warz.

By the way, using “””” breaks the forum now apparently LOL

I don't understand what's wrong with what he's saying. He's absolutely right. In the context of Holiday 2020, it really doesn't matter. It's absolutely more important to have quality exclusives in a Holiday where a console is less supply constrained and more demand constrained, like when a console is already a year older, than it is in the launch when the system will sell out anyways. Now saying that it isn't important at all, isn't true, because it's important to keep demand up. The fact is that when after Playstation 5 is sold out this holiday, you'll still have people buying it for games like Demon's Souls, and enhanced versions of PS4 games. But at the same time, if Halo comes out early next year, that would have a similar effect. What he said here, isn't really untrue, and not in the "i'm technically right but i'm being disingenuous" kind of way, just genuinely he's not wrong.

The balded part basically explains my answer. 

Exactly my point in bald. They are selling because its a new shiny box, they don't need to waste heavy hitters at launch if people are going to buy the box anyway. Its actually smarter to save your heavy hitters when supply starts getting under control to maximize sales. Atm Series S/X is selling quite well and didn't need Halo to achieve that. When Halo arrives it will boost sales in a year where it will need it rather than wasted at launch.

Hey, can’t beat good old fashioned value bang for buck. To many enthusiasts the optimizations and better loading times is reason enough. I’m personally holding back, I’ll be part of the sales bump when Halo releases. 

Insomniac has traditionally made their games exclusively for Playstation consoles. Sony buying Insomniac doesn't take any games from being 3rd party multiplats to being 1st party exclusives. Demon's Soul's wasn't a moneyhat. Demon's Soul's wouldn't have been made on PS3 if not for Sony approaching From Software, and working with them in tandem on the game. Sony's Takeshi Kaji co-produced the game with From's producer. Demon's Souls was very much akin to Scalebound, or Bayonetta 2 in that it was a 2nd party game, slated for console exclusivity. The ironic thing here is that Sony considered Demon's Souls such a bad game that they didn't even want to publish it in North America. That's why Atlus' logo appears on NA PS3 copies of the game. So in terms of Demon's Souls you don't know what you're talking about. Guerilla games wasn't a very good studio when Sony purchased them. It took years for Sony to turn them into a good developer. If MS were to comehow take compulsion games to the level of Guerilla, I'd have no complaints at all.

Of course you think playing on your phone is fine. Your taste in games is horrible. :D

The lag has been improving steadily, and shouldn’t be a problem with a strong home wifi signal. The small screen is funny considering many Nintendo handhelds had screens smaller then modern smartphones...I wonder if you complained their screens were small back in the day. 

I think we all know they had to expand beyond consoles to survive, but what’s your point? Seems salty that Xbox expanding its reach where Sony stuck in the old ways. 

Also your use of poached is a little salty. They were 3rd party. Now they are 1st. Sony buys studios too ya know...but in their case I bet you’d think they were “uplifted” in a warm embrace :p

Lag will always be an issue, unless you have a server farm every so many miles. Nintendo handheld games were designed with a small screen in mind. 8 and 16 bit is perfectly acceptable on a small screen. DS and 3DS had two screens to allow for better placing of UI elements, which kept small screens from getting crowded. Things like small screens or 480p can be perfectly acceptable in the past, and not acceptable now. If a modern console tried displaying only at 480p most people would laugh at it. Yet during the PS2/Gamecube/Xbox era 480p was fine. Likewise small screens for portable games were fine in the past. If anybody tried that today they'd be rightfully laughed at. Standards change as tech improves.

My point is they  refused to simply admit that, and instead ran a disingenuous "Pro-Consumer" marketing campaign, after trying to force always online nonsense on gamers. Nintendo is honest. Sony isn't entirely honest, but hasn't had a reason to be deceptive for over a decade. MS on the other hand has gone full on sophist mode. They don't care about the truth. They just care about "winning" the narrative or argument at the time.

I coverd Sony buying studios in my response to LudicrousSpeed.

Thanks.

P.S. I own a $2000 PC, and it will be what I play a lot of 3rd party AAA games on this gen. So it's kinda hard for me to personally be salty. I just wish MS would be honest for a change.