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shikamaru317 said:

That is one impressive physical game collection. 

Thanks.

Last edited by DroidKnight - on 12 November 2020

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O_o... dafuq happened here?

I don't know if there is a proper place for making lists of users by console allegiance (I'd say probably no), but if there is, it certainly isn't in this thread about the PS4-PS5 transition taking 3 years. I don't *think* I see anything here that requires action, but definitely not heading in a good direction.

So, if you guys want to talk about the PS4-PS5 transition taking 3 years, get back on track. Continuing on this path is probably going to lead to either thread bans, ban bans, or a lock as might be necessary.





To maybe get things back on track, I'm glad the transition will be taking 2-3 years. As someone who is typically a late adopter, and someone who bought an XBox One a few months ago cause I greatly overestimated what the price on the new gen would be, I'm happy I'll be able to get by with my PS4 and XBox One for the foreseeable future.

I get that it takes away from the excitement of next gen, but I think it's also important to show people that investing in your machine will pay off in the long run. I was willing to buy an XBox One this year because I was confident it would've been wasted money (although I regret it), and likewise last gen I bought a PS3 in like 2011 because of how well Sony supported the PS2.



JWeinCom said:

THREAD WARNING

O_o... dafuq happened here?

I don't know if there is a proper place for making lists of users by console allegiance (I'd say probably no), but if there is, it certainly isn't in this thread about the PS4-PS5 transition taking 3 years. I don't *think* I see anything here that requires action, but definitely not heading in a good direction.

So, if you guys want to talk about the PS4-PS5 transition taking 3 years, get back on track. Continuing on this path is probably going to lead to either thread bans, ban bans, or a lock as might be necessary.





To maybe get things back on track, I'm glad the transition will be taking 2-3 years. As someone who is typically a late adopter, and someone who bought an XBox One a few months ago cause I greatly overestimated what the price on the new gen would be, I'm happy I'll be able to get by with my PS4 and XBox One for the foreseeable future.

I get that it takes away from the excitement of next gen, but I think it's also important to show people that investing in your machine will pay off in the long run. I was willing to buy an XBox One this year because I was confident it would've been wasted money (although I regret it), and likewise last gen I bought a PS3 in like 2011 because of how well Sony supported the PS2.

As long as there is a healthy number of next-gen exclusives from the platform holder there isn't a problem with 3rd parties and some less demanding 1st party games being crossgen. But if you don't give enough reason to buy the new console that is bad.



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Lol, are people still comparing sony having some cross gen games but literally launching the ps5 with exclusives, to Microsoft who came out and said all games will be cross gen for 2 years?




hinch said:

Yeah polls rarely ever give out accurate figures. Just look at the most wanted, and best of threads and there's your answer.

Xbox dominates Playstation in these threads?



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Edit: Saw the mod warning before reply. Way offtopic anyway.

But back on topic this was well known months ago.

Last edited by hinch - on 13 November 2020

shikamaru317 said:
shikamaru317 said:
PotentHerbs said:

Not anymore. This site leans more towards Xbox than PS at this point in time. 

Hmmm, I'm not really sure if that's accurate. I feel like I only know of maybe 20 Xbox first or Xbox secondary fans on this site, 25 tops. I'm pretty sure there are more PS first or PS secondary people than that, though I could be wrong. Maybe I should make a list to see.

Decided to go ahead and make a list of people off the top of my head. Disclaimer: I am making fanbase assumptions here so I could be wrong on some of these, I apologize if I get somebody wrong. Probably going to miss some people on both lists, doing this mostly off the top of my head.

Xbox Primary or Secondary Fans

  1. Myself (Xbox Primary, PS Secondary)
  2. Spade
  3. Ice
  4. Ryuu
  5. Puggsly
  6. Ludicrous
  7. Sales
  8. Darkenergy
  9. crissindahouse
  10. DroidKnight
  11. Jason
  12. Wellfare
  13. Goatseye
  14. AsGryffnn
  15. Kigel
  16. Kirby
  17. Barozi
  18. Starcraft
  19. Ironman
  20. Imaginedvl
  21. konnichiwa
  22. smroadkill
  23. derpysquirtle
  24. Angelus
  25. Chris Hu
  26. Chakkra
  27. VAMatt
  28. YvanJean
  29. Foodfather
  30. Azzanation
  31. TrunksWD
  32. Captain Yuri (PC first, Xbox second if I'm not mistaken)
  33. Chazore (PC first, Xbox second if I'm not mistaken)
  34. RolStoppable (Nintendo Primary, Xbox secondary I think)
  35. NobleTeam (PS primary, Xbox secondary currently I think)
  36. d21lewis
  37. DirtyP2002
  38. ILOVEGIGGS

Sony Primary or Secondary fans

  1. Myself (Xbox Primary, PS Secondary)
  2. Bandor
  3. PotentHerbs
  4. Runa
  5. ClassicGamingWizz
  6. DonFerrari
  7. JRPGfan
  8. BloodTears
  9. Replicant
  10. Hinch (PC primary, PS secondary I think)
  11. Hynad
  12. Hunter_Alien
  13. LurkerJ
  14. KLXVER
  15. Shiken
  16. Farsala
  17. Shinobi_San (PC primary, PS secondary I think)
  18. Twintail
  19. Serious_frusting
  20. Dgc1808
  21. KratosLives
  22. NobleTeam (PS primary, Xbox secondary currently I think)
  23. Bristow
  24. Acevil
  25. BraLoD
  26. TallSillhouette
  27. Gooch
  28. Zealen
  29. Hynad
  30. KazumaKiryu
  31. Ryotsu
  32. Angelv
  33. Otter
  34. Jpcc86
  35. Ascarkabab
  36. Qwark
  37. Leynos
  38. Manlytears
  39. Trumpstyle
  40. Eva01
  41. Signalstar

Xbox list is bigger than I thought, glad to see the Xbox fanbase has recovered this much over the last few years. Xbox fanbase was down to like 10-15 regulars at one point as I recall. 

I am a secondary Xbox fan. If Rol is included in that before me then wtf. We spoke and we laughed and shared joy in Xbox empire. This is a betrayal of trust and brotherhood.

Edit: Whoops, sorry, didnt see the warning.

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Otter said:

Lol, are people still comparing sony having some cross gen games but literally launching the ps5 with exclusives, to Microsoft who came out and said all games will be cross gen for 2 years?

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Well that’s a double standard. Isn’t Sackboy and Spiderman cross gen? Demon Souls is technically a PS3 game and it’s only exclusive because Sony didn’t make Ps3 backwards compatible...

(see this is what I’m talking about. Both companies have declared their support for older systems, but only Sony gets the better narrative) 



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sales2099 said:
Otter said:

Lol, are people still comparing sony having some cross gen games but literally launching the ps5 with exclusives, to Microsoft who came out and said all games will be cross gen for 2 years?

_______________
Well that’s a double standard. Isn’t Sackboy and Spiderman cross gen? Demon Souls is technically a PS3 game and it’s only exclusive because Sony didn’t make Ps3 backwards compatible...

(see this is what I’m talking about. Both companies have declared their support for older systems, but only Sony gets the better narrative) 

They don't have the same narrative so it's not a double standard.

Microsoft got backlash because they insisted EVERY game from the next 2 years of 1st party games would be tied to old hardware. 

Out the gate sony has 2 launch games built exclusively around PS5 hardware. Demon Souls is a remake but it's also the best looking console game ever made (technically). Astrobot has been universally praised for its use of the ps5 control, something's its gameplay was designed around. In both cases the praise comes from centering PS5 hardware at the heart of the development and the absence of this is why people were concerned about MS' statement. If MS had crazy good looking games, or unique titles taking advantage of the Series X hardware, then any initial backlash would be mute. Playstation would have got just as much backlash if they committed to to every 1st party game coming to PS4 before they even revealed any PS5 games. 

Next on Playstation 5 there's Destruction All Stars, Returnals, Ratchet and Clank and GT7. All aimed for Q1/Q2. Anyone investing in PS5 knows that there will be games designed around its specs. 

Equally if Microsoft was showing cross gen games arriving in the near future that looked a generational leap (ala Horizon 2), people wouldn't care about the cross gen statement but instead they showed off Halo Infinite...



Otter said:
sales2099 said:
Otter said:

Lol, are people still comparing sony having some cross gen games but literally launching the ps5 with exclusives, to Microsoft who came out and said all games will be cross gen for 2 years?

_______________
Well that’s a double standard. Isn’t Sackboy and Spiderman cross gen? Demon Souls is technically a PS3 game and it’s only exclusive because Sony didn’t make Ps3 backwards compatible...

(see this is what I’m talking about. Both companies have declared their support for older systems, but only Sony gets the better narrative) 

They don't have the same narrative so it's not a double standard.

Microsoft got backlash because they insisted EVERY game from the next 2 years of 1st party games would be tied to old hardware. 

Out the gate sony has 2 launch games built exclusively around PS5 hardware. Demon Souls is a remake but it's also the best looking console game ever made (technically). Astrobot has been universally praised for its use of the ps5 control, something's its gameplay was designed around. In both cases the praise comes from centering PS5 hardware at the heart of the development and the absence of this is why people were concerned about MS' statement. If MS had crazy good looking games, or unique titles taking advantage of the Series X hardware, then any initial backlash would be mute. Playstation would have got just as much backlash if they committed to to every 1st party game coming to PS4 before they even revealed any PS5 games. 

Next on Playstation 5 there's Destruction All Stars, Returnals, Ratchet and Clank and GT7. All aimed for Q1/Q2. Anyone investing in PS5 knows that there will be games designed around its specs. 

Equally if Microsoft was showing cross gen games arriving in the near future that looked a generational leap (ala Horizon 2), people wouldn't care about the cross gen statement but instead they showed off Halo Infinite...

Look all I know is that I was sold on PS5 till Horizon was announced as cross gen.  Now I will wait for GoW5.  I have a PS4 Pro for Horizon and Spiderman, and don't care about the shovelware.  Demon Souls can wait, but I am interested in that one as I loved it on PS3...

However as someone who did not play many of MS games in gen 8, the Series X was the easy choice for me to start next gen with.  Aside from new 3rd party games, I can experience Gears 4 and 5, Halo 5, Crackdown 3,  DOOM Eternal, (I will get to why this is a point for XSX), etc for the first time with improvements to boot.  And I get to do it all for minimal cost on gamepass inbetween new games (which is why DOOM Eternal is still a point for XSX).

It just makes the most sense from both a financial standpoint and from a games standpoint.  This is why I find it hilarious when someone says anything along the lines of, "XSX has no gaemz at launch, so only hardcore fans will buy it!"  It shows that, through lack of desire or otherwise, they refuse to look at the bigger picture and fail to see why the XSX is just as good an option at launch than the PS5 (pending on the situation of the gamer).

On the flip side, anyone with an XBox ONE X would benefit more from the PS5.  They already have a beast that can do gamepass while they wait for more games tailored for the Series X.  So in the meantime they can check out what Sony has to offer.



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