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Me thinks they will buy valve and then they will buy epic gaming company, nintendo will probably be next year plus the chinese company that owns riot games etc,. Infinite money baby, just deal with it.



 

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Chazore said:
sales2099 said:

My hope would be MS one day acquiring Valve, once Gabe nears his retirement. Steam marketshare and revenue stream is exactly what MS is looking for. Effortless cuts in gaming purchases. Valve is privately owned and that’s exactly the kind of companies MS goes for.

For me, it would mean a significant narrative shift in the console wars. Steam users worst case Xbox allies. Best case Steam users are Xbox ecosystem gamers by default and that would go a long ways in strengthening us against Sony.

Integration between Windows Store and Steam. Valve back catalog games on Game Pass. Game Pass on Steam. A man can dream :)

Worst case is "Xbox allies"?.

The worst case is that a massive significant part of PC gaming is under MS control, and that's something I wouldn't want at all. It was bad enough when they tried to put down lock & key with GFWL, it'd be 10x worse if they straight up owned Valve/Steam, because I know they are very much into turning everything they buy towards their Xbox ecosystem, and well, I don't want that, because I've never been a big fan of console ecosystems, because they do not allow for much freedom in the first place. 

I don't want some console folk desiring a PC company be bought out for their petty, completely insignificant console wars.

Don't decide what's best and what's worst for me, or other PC gamers please, because your dreams are not shared by me, nor everyone. 

You better prepare yourself, they will buy valve my guy. 



 

sales2099 said:

Allies as in your spending on Steam funnels into the Xbox division, fuelling MSs warchest of IPs and revenue. We be gaming step-brothers haha 

Hypothetically speaking, the only way Gabe would agree to anything is if A. The price is right and B. MS only adds to Steam, not take anything away/make it worse. Like adding Game Pass onto Steam would be a great addition. Having a tab on Steam for Xbox Studio titles wouldn’t be a big deal, due to the sheer volume of titles available. Valve IPs going on Game Pass wouldn’t affect you, only add value. 

I never implied to say my hopes supersede yours. But the idea that PC gamers would be involuntarily “conscripted” into the console war is an amusing thought. 

How would adding gamepass on Steam be a great addition for Valve?

Steam makes money of sales, suckering you into buying stuff most of which you will never really play anyway. A subscription service would take away from that. I'm sure they did the math already and there is no Steam gamepass...

Steam has the upper hand, the windows store is not popular by PC gamers to say the least. Any association with the windows store will only hurt Steam. The crap MS did with FS2020 on Steam did not go over well (It just downloads an installer and you're still stuck with the awful windows installer while game time adds up on Steam, which created a huge headache with the refund system)

I don't see much of a partnership happening. The only thing I can think of is to have Valve Index on Series X and MS studios making games for it.



vivster said:
Not sure if it would even be legally possible for Microsoft to buy Steam. Sounds like a big pile of antitrust.

Its arguably less of an issue now than a few years ago. Given numerous companies now operate seemingly successful digital stores and not all PC games are on Steam. It would be incredible for MS as well.

But how much is Valve worth? I would guess considerably more than Zenimax.



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That’d be a great partnership. Maybe some IPs would be revived from both portfolios.



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sales2099 said:

Allies as in your spending on Steam funnels into the Xbox division, fuelling MSs warchest of IPs and revenue. We be gaming step-brothers haha 

Hypothetically speaking, the only way Gabe would agree to anything is if A. The price is right and B. MS only adds to Steam, not take anything away/make it worse. Like adding Game Pass onto Steam would be a great addition. Having a tab on Steam for Xbox Studio titles wouldn’t be a big deal, due to the sheer volume of titles available. Valve IPs going on Game Pass wouldn’t affect you, only add value. 

I never implied to say my hopes supersede yours. But the idea that PC gamers would be involuntarily “conscripted” into the console war is an amusing thought. 

Yeah, I egt the whole "support the cause" type thing ya'll guys have going, but I'm not really into that vision. I'd rather they just leave Valve alone and stop consuming.

Look at the "partnership" between Acti and Blizz, which has now more or less turned into Acti just purely owning and restructuring Blizz from the inside out, that's not something I'd ever wish on Valve. 

Having a tab?, why not just do what they are doing currently and just release them onto the store, instead of shoving in an Xbox tab?. Don't need to specifically have such a tab when you can see the games on the store, follow devs on it, search for tags etc. 

Valve IP's going to Xbox consoles wouldn't affect me no, because that's happened in the past, but enforcing Xbox style changes to a client I love would affect me. I don't want their UI cramping Steam's style, nor do I want any MS style changes made to the client in general. Steam's client is worlds ahead of the Xbox app.

You have a dream, your dream conflicts against mine, hence why I see direct conflict. I want things to remain separate as they currently are, not engulfed by one party and assimilated. 

Dunno why it's amusing, it just comes off as petty and pointless. Only trolls and "hur durf I'm winning teh war this time" type people would see that. 



SvennoJ said:
sales2099 said:

Allies as in your spending on Steam funnels into the Xbox division, fuelling MSs warchest of IPs and revenue. We be gaming step-brothers haha 

Hypothetically speaking, the only way Gabe would agree to anything is if A. The price is right and B. MS only adds to Steam, not take anything away/make it worse. Like adding Game Pass onto Steam would be a great addition. Having a tab on Steam for Xbox Studio titles wouldn’t be a big deal, due to the sheer volume of titles available. Valve IPs going on Game Pass wouldn’t affect you, only add value. 

I never implied to say my hopes supersede yours. But the idea that PC gamers would be involuntarily “conscripted” into the console war is an amusing thought. 

How would adding gamepass on Steam be a great addition for Valve?

Steam makes money of sales, suckering you into buying stuff most of which you will never really play anyway. A subscription service would take away from that. I'm sure they did the math already and there is no Steam gamepass...

Steam has the upper hand, the windows store is not popular by PC gamers to say the least. Any association with the windows store will only hurt Steam. The crap MS did with FS2020 on Steam did not go over well (It just downloads an installer and you're still stuck with the awful windows installer while game time adds up on Steam, which created a huge headache with the refund system)

I don't see much of a partnership happening. The only thing I can think of is to have Valve Index on Series X and MS studios making games for it.

I meant GP on Steam would add value for gamers not so much the company. Plus it would only apply to Xbox Studio titles, not like the vast majority of Steam titles will be affected. I only see that happening if MS acquired them, because giving Valve a cut of GP revenue wouldn’t be ideal. 



Xbox: Best hardware, Game Pass best value, best BC, more 1st party genres and multiplayer titles. 

 

Chazore said:
sales2099 said:

Allies as in your spending on Steam funnels into the Xbox division, fuelling MSs warchest of IPs and revenue. We be gaming step-brothers haha 

Hypothetically speaking, the only way Gabe would agree to anything is if A. The price is right and B. MS only adds to Steam, not take anything away/make it worse. Like adding Game Pass onto Steam would be a great addition. Having a tab on Steam for Xbox Studio titles wouldn’t be a big deal, due to the sheer volume of titles available. Valve IPs going on Game Pass wouldn’t affect you, only add value. 

I never implied to say my hopes supersede yours. But the idea that PC gamers would be involuntarily “conscripted” into the console war is an amusing thought. 

Yeah, I egt the whole "support the cause" type thing ya'll guys have going, but I'm not really into that vision. I'd rather they just leave Valve alone and stop consuming.

Look at the "partnership" between Acti and Blizz, which has now more or less turned into Acti just purely owning and restructuring Blizz from the inside out, that's not something I'd ever wish on Valve. 

Having a tab?, why not just do what they are doing currently and just release them onto the store, instead of shoving in an Xbox tab?. Don't need to specifically have such a tab when you can see the games on the store, follow devs on it, search for tags etc. 

Valve IP's going to Xbox consoles wouldn't affect me no, because that's happened in the past, but enforcing Xbox style changes to a client I love would affect me. I don't want their UI cramping Steam's style, nor do I want any MS style changes made to the client in general. Steam's client is worlds ahead of the Xbox app.

You have a dream, your dream conflicts against mine, hence why I see direct conflict. I want things to remain separate as they currently are, not engulfed by one party and assimilated. 

Dunno why it's amusing, it just comes off as petty and pointless. Only trolls and "hur durf I'm winning teh war this time" type people would see that. 

Just having a hypothetical thought process inspired by the OP. No biggie. 



Xbox: Best hardware, Game Pass best value, best BC, more 1st party genres and multiplayer titles. 

 

Gabe was in COVID lockdown in New Zealand, so had an "extended stay" in a very nice part of the world. - New Zealand is probably the best place on the planet to be in lockdown in all honesty, they defeated the virus and returned to normalcy faster than most other nations.

Gabe likely did some traveling thanks to being forced to stay for an extended period of time, he could have fallen in love with the place and maybe wants to make some movement in opening up development studios there.

Don't see the tie to Microsoft though, but nothing surprises me at the moment.



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Microsoft has to fight and throw more n more money into the pit for its console space.Steam is the Dominant pc platform. It makes money just by existing and it’s great for gamers. I love Xbox, I have no beef with Microsoft. I prefer Xbox games usually.

But It’s safe to assume that Valve’s Steam platform is more valuable than Microsoft’s Xbox division..