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sales2099 said:

My hope would be MS one day acquiring Valve, once Gabe nears his retirement. Steam marketshare and revenue stream is exactly what MS is looking for. Effortless cuts in gaming purchases. Valve is privately owned and that’s exactly the kind of companies MS goes for.

For me, it would mean a significant narrative shift in the console wars. Steam users worst case Xbox allies. Best case Steam users are Xbox ecosystem gamers by default and that would go a long ways in strengthening us against Sony.

Integration between Windows Store and Steam. Valve back catalog games on Game Pass. Game Pass on Steam. A man can dream :)

Worst case is "Xbox allies"?.

The worst case is that a massive significant part of PC gaming is under MS control, and that's something I wouldn't want at all. It was bad enough when they tried to put down lock & key with GFWL, it'd be 10x worse if they straight up owned Valve/Steam, because I know they are very much into turning everything they buy towards their Xbox ecosystem, and well, I don't want that, because I've never been a big fan of console ecosystems, because they do not allow for much freedom in the first place. 

I don't want some console folk desiring a PC company be bought out for their petty, completely insignificant console wars.

Don't decide what's best and what's worst for me, or other PC gamers please, because your dreams are not shared by me, nor everyone. 



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sales2099 said:
Ryuu96 said:

Don't mean to be a downer but it's likely nothing.

Geoff was hosting a generic Game Awards meeting with industry folk, Phil was apart of it, some fans were invited to the video call as well to ask Phil questions, Gabe popped in right at the end and answered some questions. It wasn't like Phil, Geoff and Gabe were the only ones there.

Regional Twitter accounts never tweet anything important, with maybe the exception of Xbox UK, if it isn't being teased by the main account it is likely nothing, the New Zealand tease is likely for a NZ launch event (as NZ will be the first place Xbox launches in). Gabe wants to move cause he's been stuck in NZ during this entire pandemic and maybe he's grown to like NZ.

I do think Game Pass will eventually make its way to Steam and who knows, maybe if Gabe decides to retire one day (not really convinced he's at that point yet) Microsoft will acquire Valve but not for a while and I don't think these teases mean anything.

Well he’s 57 right now. Normal age to retire is 65 but I don’t think he will wait that long given his personal wealth. Sometime this upcoming generation we gonna see what he chooses to do upon retirement.

Normal age for people who have to work for financial reasons at least.

People who like their jobs and don't just need the money often keep going beyond that, just look at the entertainment industry for instance. If he didn't like his job he could have retired a long time ago already.

Besides, doesn't he have kids? Unless they have no interest at all in his company and/or gaming I'd assume they'd be much more likely to take over rather than him selling the company.

Last edited by Ka-pi96 - on 20 October 2020

I follow a former World of Warcraft lead developer on Twitter who has been speculating that MS will acquire Valve. He said he heard a rumor that Gabe is looking to retire soon and sell Valve, and MS is one of the few that could afford to acquire them. Purchase makes sense for MS, gives them several top tier IP’s and Steam, which would be hugely beneficial for their PC gaming efforts.



sales2099 said:
Ryuu96 said:

Don't mean to be a downer but it's likely nothing.

Geoff was hosting a generic Game Awards meeting with industry folk, Phil was apart of it, some fans were invited to the video call as well to ask Phil questions, Gabe popped in right at the end and answered some questions. It wasn't like Phil, Geoff and Gabe were the only ones there.

Regional Twitter accounts never tweet anything important, with maybe the exception of Xbox UK, if it isn't being teased by the main account it is likely nothing, the New Zealand tease is likely for a NZ launch event (as NZ will be the first place Xbox launches in). Gabe wants to move cause he's been stuck in NZ during this entire pandemic and maybe he's grown to like NZ.

I do think Game Pass will eventually make its way to Steam and who knows, maybe if Gabe decides to retire one day (not really convinced he's at that point yet) Microsoft will acquire Valve but not for a while and I don't think these teases mean anything.

Well he’s 57 right now. Normal age to retire is 65 but I don’t think he will wait that long given his personal wealth. Sometime this upcoming generation we gonna see what he chooses to do upon retirement.

It depends a lot of how much he enjoys his work. There are billionaires older than 80 that still likes to work and poor people under 50 that got a way to retire already.



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Chazore said:
sales2099 said:

My hope would be MS one day acquiring Valve, once Gabe nears his retirement. Steam marketshare and revenue stream is exactly what MS is looking for. Effortless cuts in gaming purchases. Valve is privately owned and that’s exactly the kind of companies MS goes for.

For me, it would mean a significant narrative shift in the console wars. Steam users worst case Xbox allies. Best case Steam users are Xbox ecosystem gamers by default and that would go a long ways in strengthening us against Sony.

Integration between Windows Store and Steam. Valve back catalog games on Game Pass. Game Pass on Steam. A man can dream :)

Worst case is "Xbox allies"?.

The worst case is that a massive significant part of PC gaming is under MS control, and that's something I wouldn't want at all. It was bad enough when they tried to put down lock & key with GFWL, it'd be 10x worse if they straight up owned Valve/Steam, because I know they are very much into turning everything they buy towards their Xbox ecosystem, and well, I don't want that, because I've never been a big fan of console ecosystems, because they do not allow for much freedom in the first place. 

I don't want some console folk desiring a PC company be bought out for their petty, completely insignificant console wars.

Don't decide what's best and what's worst for me, or other PC gamers please, because your dreams are not shared by me, nor everyone. 

No need to take it this far. Sales is talking from his POV and wishes not about the whole industry in name of everyone.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

I personally hope that MS doesn't buy Valve. Valve has been great all these years because they have been independent and private. The thing is, I do like MS's current management compared to previous generations. A lot of their divisions are making the right moves and if MS buys Valve, I am sure they will leave Valve alone and let them do their own thing. The problem as always is the next guy or a change in their vision. If the current CEO of MS gets replaced, if Microsoft's vision changes or a number of other things, it could and will affect Valve.

So if MS buys Valve, in the short term we might not see any changes, heck we might even see improvements in some aspects, but in the long term, I think we will see a decline for the platform.



             

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Not sure if it would even be legally possible for Microsoft to buy Steam. Sounds like a big pile of antitrust.



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They wont buy Valve. Id hate for that to happen, but thank god i know the isn't a chance in hell of it happening.
However i do see them partnering in some way. Steam coming to Xbox Series s/x?, Gamepass on Steam?, Both?.



Chazore said:
sales2099 said:

My hope would be MS one day acquiring Valve, once Gabe nears his retirement. Steam marketshare and revenue stream is exactly what MS is looking for. Effortless cuts in gaming purchases. Valve is privately owned and that’s exactly the kind of companies MS goes for.

For me, it would mean a significant narrative shift in the console wars. Steam users worst case Xbox allies. Best case Steam users are Xbox ecosystem gamers by default and that would go a long ways in strengthening us against Sony.

Integration between Windows Store and Steam. Valve back catalog games on Game Pass. Game Pass on Steam. A man can dream :)

Worst case is "Xbox allies"?.

The worst case is that a massive significant part of PC gaming is under MS control, and that's something I wouldn't want at all. It was bad enough when they tried to put down lock & key with GFWL, it'd be 10x worse if they straight up owned Valve/Steam, because I know they are very much into turning everything they buy towards their Xbox ecosystem, and well, I don't want that, because I've never been a big fan of console ecosystems, because they do not allow for much freedom in the first place. 

I don't want some console folk desiring a PC company be bought out for their petty, completely insignificant console wars.

Don't decide what's best and what's worst for me, or other PC gamers please, because your dreams are not shared by me, nor everyone. 

Allies as in your spending on Steam funnels into the Xbox division, fuelling MSs warchest of IPs and revenue. We be gaming step-brothers haha 

Hypothetically speaking, the only way Gabe would agree to anything is if A. The price is right and B. MS only adds to Steam, not take anything away/make it worse. Like adding Game Pass onto Steam would be a great addition. Having a tab on Steam for Xbox Studio titles wouldn’t be a big deal, due to the sheer volume of titles available. Valve IPs going on Game Pass wouldn’t affect you, only add value. 

I never implied to say my hopes supersede yours. But the idea that PC gamers would be involuntarily “conscripted” into the console war is an amusing thought. 



Xbox: Best hardware, Game Pass best value, best BC, more 1st party genres and multiplayer titles.