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mZuzek said:
burninmylight said:

I've seen other posters more informed than myself that the devs have tweeted that patches are coming to fix these issues.

I've slept on the first Ori, thinking that it was a good 2D platformer, but would probably be another grain of sand on the beach full of 2D platformers on a Ninty console. After seeing reviews for both games and seeing that a physical collection is coming in December, I'm going to jump in.

Yeah, they did talk about it already.

Generally I get annoyed when people call Metroidvanias platformers, but in the case of Ori it's hard to make a case for that. Both games have very little backtracking and are pretty linear, they don't really leave anything interesting for the player to find in exploration outside of the main stuff everyone's gonna see. So it does feel more like a proper platformer than any other Metroidvania.

...But in terms of the gameplay itself, although it is quite good, it maybe is another grain of sand in the Nintendo beach. What really sets these games apart is the story, art direction and soundtrack, it's an artistic experience as much as it is a game.

Not invalidating anything that you said up there. Keep in mind I was expressing my thoughts as someone who knew nothing about the games before watching some brief video reviews and seeing what how other forumgoers described them, so I first assumed they were simply platformers. Them having Metroidvania elements is one of the primary factors that will get me off the fence to buy the boxed copies in December.

The devs also said cart will come with the patch already on it, further incentivizing me to acquire it. I love rewarding hard working, customer-friendly studios.



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Moon Studios are definitely one of the most talented devs going around. Its not just the visuals, its the heart and soul of their games. The Ori series wont age like other games.



It is definitely a technical achievement... And what you can achieve on Switch when you aren't lazy.



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I've only played the game on Xbox One, where it unfortunately suffered from some rather glaring technical hiccups. But I do look forward to getting/replaying both Ori games on Switch via physical cartridge when they come out later this year.

I will say this: technical accomplishments aside, with the arrival of Will of the Wisps Moon Studios is the best third-party on Switch, in terms of quality.



curl-6 said:

It's also really interesting to see all the behind the scenes tricks and tinkering that went into making it work so well. Like they say, a lot of people assume that a game being 2D automatically means its not demanding, which is completely wrong.

Well in my opinion, the original Xbox version of Ori 2 was way too demanding for a 2D game, way more than many 3D games (which can run rock solid 4k@60fps on the One X, which Ori couldn't during its release), meaning that lot of ressources were badly spent/not optimized. 

The Switch version showed that it could be as beautiful and less demanding with some optimization.



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SKMBlake said:
curl-6 said:

It's also really interesting to see all the behind the scenes tricks and tinkering that went into making it work so well. Like they say, a lot of people assume that a game being 2D automatically means its not demanding, which is completely wrong.

Well in my opinion, the original Xbox version of Ori 2 was way too demanding for a 2D game, way more than many 3D games (which can run rock solid 4k@60fps on the One X, which Ori couldn't during its release), meaning that lot of ressources were badly spent/not optimized. 

The Switch version showed that it could be as beautiful and less demanding with some optimization.

did you even watch the video?



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kirby007 said:
SKMBlake said:

Well in my opinion, the original Xbox version of Ori 2 was way too demanding for a 2D game, way more than many 3D games (which can run rock solid 4k@60fps on the One X, which Ori couldn't during its release), meaning that lot of ressources were badly spent/not optimized. 

The Switch version showed that it could be as beautiful and less demanding with some optimization.

did you even watch the video?

I think I even watched the video before you did.

And the other DF video related to Ori 2, where we could see the game's performance was very bad even on Xbox One X (that's why they mentioned the game runs better on the One at the end of the video).

And yes, 7 layers of high quality background is way too demanding for any console, they didn't even bother thinking this could be an issue on the One S, resulting in a game which was initially running at 30 fps.



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SKMBlake said:

Well in my opinion, the original Xbox version of Ori 2 was way too demanding for a 2D game, way more than many 3D games (which can run rock solid 4k@60fps on the One X, which Ori couldn't during its release), meaning that lot of ressources were badly spent/not optimized. 

The Switch version showed that it could be as beautiful and less demanding with some optimization.

Ori is played at a 2d perspective but is technically like a 3D game which is why it's somewhat more demanding than other 2.5D games or some 3D games, this is because as shown in the video what you see on screen is not one layer with a character moving and interacting but seven layers in order to achieve the game's look and feel, it's like it's rendering seven 2D games at once but the result is one of the most timeless art directions in gaming.



SKMBlake said:
kirby007 said:

did you even watch the video?

I think I even watched the video before you did.

And the other DF video related to Ori 2, where we could see the game's performance was very bad even on Xbox One X (that's why they mentioned the game runs better on the One at the end of the video).

And yes, 7 layers of high quality background is way too demanding for any console, they didn't even bother thinking this could be an issue on the One S, resulting in a game which was initially running at 30 fps.

in that case your 2D comparision towards 3D point doesn't make much sense to me, neither is the point you watching it before me tbh



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kirby007 said:
SKMBlake said:

I think I even watched the video before you did.

And the other DF video related to Ori 2, where we could see the game's performance was very bad even on Xbox One X (that's why they mentioned the game runs better on the One at the end of the video).

And yes, 7 layers of high quality background is way too demanding for any console, they didn't even bother thinking this could be an issue on the One S, resulting in a game which was initially running at 30 fps.

in that case your 2D comparision towards 3D point doesn't make much sense to me, neither is the point you watching it before me tbh

Well that's unfortunate



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